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Kathy_2008

Junior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? California

My father passed away June 15, 2008 and there is only me and my sister surviving him. He didn't leave a will and my sister has verbally stated she has no interest in his assets.
He only has $400 in the bank, has no debt, owns a 1971 car, and a 1964 mobile home which is on a rental lot.

I am the beneficiary on the life insurance policy and am in the process of getting the claim settled for the mortuary. Some questions I have are:
- what is probate?
- Do I need to go into probate?
- What am I laiable for?
- I just want to give the car away, sell the mobile home for $4000.00 and close the bank account. How can I get this accomplished?
- If the fees (if any) are greater than his assets once liquidated (approx. $4,400), can I decide to just walk away from this frustration?

Please help!
 


seniorjudge

Senior Member
California Intestate Succession Laws

If any part of a California decedent's estate is not effectively disposed of by will, the intestate share will be distributed in the following order and manner:

1. Surviving spouse/domestic partner. In California, a surviving spouse or domestic partner is generally first in line to get any assets from the intestate estate, including any community property, quasi-community property, and separate property that belonged to the decedent.

The surviving spouse or domestic partner is entitled to the one-half of the community or quasi-community property that belonged to the decedent. In addition, the surviving spouse or is entitled to the following amounts of separate property in the estate:

* If there is no surviving issue (i.e., child), parent, sibling, or issue of a deceased sibling of decedent, the surviving spouse is entitled to the entire intestate estate.
* If the decedent leaves a surviving child, children of that child if the child predeceases the decedent, parents, or siblings, the surviving spouse gets one-half of the intestate separate property.
* If the decedent leaves more than one child or children of a predeceased child, the surviving spouse gets one-third of the separate property in the intestate estate.

2. Heirs other than surviving spouse. Any part of the intestate estate not passing to the surviving spouse or domestic partner as indicated above, or the entire intestate estate if there is no surviving spouse or domestic partner, passes as follows:

1. Decedent's descendants (e.g., children and grandchildren), per stirpes.
2. Decedent's surviving parent or parents equally.
3. Issue of decedent's parent or parents, split equally if they are all of the same degree of kinship to the decedent (e.g., all decedent's siblings survive) or split per stirpes if unequal (e.g., some siblings survive and some are dead but survived by children).
4. Decedent's surviving grandparent or grandparents equally.
5. Issue of decedent's grandparents, per stirpes.
6. Issue of a predeceased spouse. To be eligible to real property, the former spouse cannot predecease the decedent by more than 15 years. For personal property, the former spouse cannot predecease the decedent by more than 5 years.
7. Decedent's next of kin in equal degree. If a claim is made through two or more different ancestral lines, those who claim through the ancestor nearest to the decedent are preferred over others.

3. State of California. If there is no taker under any of the above provisions, the intestate estate reverts (escheats) to the state of California.

California Intestate Succession Law Fun Facts

* Relatives of the half blood generally inherit the same share they would inherit if they were of the whole blood (except in certain cases involving the severing of the relationship between a child and the child's natural parent due to adoption).
* Relatives of the decedent conceived before his death, but born thereafter inherit, as if they had been born during the decedent's lifetime.
* Any person who fails to survive the decedent by 120 hours is deemed to have predeceased the decedent for purposes of intestate succession (which means that the person generally doesn't get a share of the decedent's estate). If it cannot be established by clear and convincing evidence that the person who would otherwise be an heir has survived the decedent by 120 hours, it is considered that the person failed to survive for the required period. However, these rules don't apply if the end result is that the state of California gets the intestate estate.
* Evildoers beware! Any person who intentionally and feloniously kills the decedent cannot inherit any of decedent's assets or otherwise benefit from the killing. The murderer is treated as if he or she had predeceased the murdered decedent, therefore being entitled to nothing (except some jail time). Felonious and intentional killing of the decedent can be established by a criminal conviction or a civil trial based on a preponderance of the evidence.
* On a similar note, a person who physically abuses, neglects, or commits fiduciary abuse of a decedent who was an elder or dependent adult is also prevented from profiting after the decedent's death. Instead of inheriting from the decedent, the abusive person is treated as having predeceased the decedent (thus becoming ineligible to inherit).
* California's intestate succession laws, as well as other laws dealing with wills and decedents' estates, can be found in the California Probate Code.

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seniorjudge

Senior Member
- what is probate? A court process where the stuff gets tranferred.

- Do I need to go into probate? If you want the stuff.

- What am I laiable for? You have to use the assets of the estate to pay for the bills; once the assets are used up, that's it.

- I just want to give the car away, sell the mobile home for $4000.00 and close the bank account. How can I get this accomplished? Probate.

- If the fees (if any) are greater than his assets once liquidated (approx. $4,400), can I decide to just walk away from this frustration? It's up to you.

There are small estates procedures in California. For example:

www.lasuperiorcourt.org/probate/pdf/TransferForm.pdf




The insurance proceeds are not part of probate.
 

Kathy_2008

Junior Member
Thanks...if I choose to not deal with probate, am I liable for his abondoned assets as I am his daughter? Do I need to share the value of these assets with my sister even though she verbally siad she wants nothing? I have no idea what the fees would be but if they would exceed the value of the sales, I imagine it would be easiest to abandon everything. But then what happens when the mobile park owner starts hassling about the abandon property?
 

tecate

Member
In a few days (40 after death), you should be able to clear title to everything by affidavit, using the DMV form for the car and mobile home, and the bank's form for the account. If your sister doesn't want anything, then take everything. You will be liable for debts up to the value of the car, mobile home, cash and personal property. If the insurance policy was payable to you, this amount is not subject to debts.

No court, no fees.
 

Farfalla

Member
If you sister does not want anything, you might want to ask her to give you that in writing. It's always a good idea to have loose ends tied up cleanly.
 

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