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ryanholt4

Junior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? MI

i was recently arrested in a casino for gambling under age. i am 19, when i got to the casino i gave them my real license that clearly states how old i am, yet they still let me in. i was under the belief that the legal age was 18. i would not have even attempted to get in if i had known the age is 21. are my chances of getting off good considering the casino has video records of me giving my real ID not a fake one.What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?
 


Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? MI

i was recently arrested in a casino for gambling under age. i am 19, when i got to the casino i gave them my real license that clearly states how old i am, yet they still let me in. i was under the belief that the legal age was 18. i would not have even attempted to get in if i had known the age is 21. are my chances of getting off good considering the casino has video records of me giving my real ID not a fake one.What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?
You have GOT to be kidding :rolleyes:
 

justalayman

Senior Member
did you have a fake ID on you?

Did the guy that checked your ID support your claim that he let a 19 yo in?

was this an Indian (Native American) owned casino?

was there any signs posted with the legal age?

as divone is alluding to, the legal age in Michigan can actually be as low as 18 if it is on an Indian casino and that is what they set as the limit.
 

ryanholt4

Junior Member
thanks for the responses. No it was not an Indian casino, it was an MGM grand. there were signs that stated the need for ID but did not specify the age. the police that arrested me said they saw the video of me giving my real license and not a fake, and i did not even have a fake on me.

and also i was not in a Michigan commercial, why?
 
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justalayman

Senior Member
thanks for the responses. No it was not an Indian casino, it was an MGM grand. there were signs that stated the need for ID but did not specify the age. the police that arrested me said they saw the video of me giving my real license and not a fake, and i did not even have a fake on me.

and also i was not in a Michigan commercial, why?
there is no way the video can be used to determine if the ID was fake or authentic. It will only support your argument you handed the security guy something. Depending on all involved, it may be able to support you handed what looked like a license but again, depending on facts not known here, it may not even be able to support what was handed to the guy.

So, you stand in front of the judge and tell him you were not aware nor were there any signs in the casino stating the age limit was 21. That you willingly handed the security guy your official state ID or drivers license, and he allowed you in.

the prosecution will then show the court 27 different places where it is posted you must be 21 to enter, the video of you dumping the fake ID in the planter by the bathroom (you would be amazed at how many cameras are in casinos and what they can see:eek:), and maybe even present the fake ID to the court. Obviously the gate guy is not going to say it was a fake because then he would be implicated in the crime. As it is now, all they have is his incompetence. Complicity would be criminal, incompetence isn't.

then you say...?
 

ryanholt4

Junior Member
true true. one thing however, the police officer admitted to me that he understood i used a real ID. and he also told me he went over the tapes which showed him i went straight from the door to the security that let me in, and that i did not stash a fake anywhere. he was sort of on my side. my last question is, what are the worst possible outcomes for me in this situation?
 

justalayman

Senior Member
why are you even asking about punishment if the state cannot support the charge?

If you were not aware of the age required to gamble (and I admittedly was ignorant of the age requirement until I researched this situation), was not made aware of it onsite (signs), you followed any required protocol to enter the establishment and did not attempt to hide the fact you were under 21, you simply did not commit the crime. That would, in fact, be an innocent error and that is not criminal.

so, what has the security guy said when others accept you did present a valid ID, which would obviously show you were under 21 and the security guard allowed you in.


and from my understanding, all ID's and licenses issued by Michigan use a vertical format for those under 21 years of age. So, your ID should have been in the vertical format and it would have been easily determinable that you were in fact under 21. Correct?
 

ryanholt4

Junior Member
well im from MD, but our IDs under 21 have the same protocol, a vertical layout. you have been more than helpful to ease my nervousness with this case, thanks man.
 

justalayman

Senior Member
well im from MD, but our IDs under 21 have the same protocol, a vertical layout. you have been more than helpful to ease my nervousness with this case, thanks man.

the fact you are from MD is even more support that unless notified of stopped, you innocently entered the casino. They need to fire the security guy.
 

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