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markivan

Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Ohio

This was the best place i could come up with to post this question. If its the wrong spot, my apologies.

A car that is NOT in my name, but i was making payments to was recently reposessed. The dealer is asking for the total amount due plus their fees and im looking for a way to pay them their money. What is really troubling me is this. This car is in my brother's name and as such, exposes his credit to this mistake of mine. What im wondering is even if i pay off the car and get it back, is a repo 'mark' still assessed to his credit score?
 


dmspi5

Junior Member
I don't think it will show as a repo on his report if you take care of the debt. He may have a 30 day listed under this debt.
 

markivan

Member
no favoritism, but i do trust ecmst12's word over dmspi5's just from past posts i've read from (her?) but i want to know if it's this 30 day thing or 7 years.

Probably better to assume the worst anyway...
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
no favoritism, but i do trust ecmst12's word over dmspi5's just from past posts i've read from (her?) but i want to know if it's this 30 day thing or 7 years.

Probably better to assume the worst anyway...
It will stay on the credit report for 7 years. It will show as late pays AND a repossession.
Does your brother even KNOW that you did this to him? I mean, since you and he were co-conspirators in this fraud, the LEAST you could do is let him know. Is there no honor amongst criminals?
 

markivan

Member
It will stay on the credit report for 7 years. It will show as late pays AND a repossession.
Does your brother even KNOW that you did this to him? I mean, since you and he were co-conspirators in this fraud, the LEAST you could do is let him know. Is there no honor amongst criminals?
Then the dealer might be a conspirator as well..

And yes, he's fully aware. I don't think i need to point out to you (and not like you'd care) how up the *** with no KY this is for him.
 
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Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
Then the dealer might be a conspirator as well..

And yes, he's fully aware. I don't think i need to point out to you (and not like you'd care) how up the *** with no KY this is for him.
No, your brother and you have conspired to defraud the lender by violating the terms of the contract.

And, I hope you enjoyed what you've placed in your brother :rolleyes:
 

markivan

Member
Alright Zinger, here's a laugh for you then because im almost certain how you'll respond. My little sob story...

I'd moved from out of state to Ohio a few years back and got into a car accident that left mine inoperable. Went to get another car and came upon the dealer selling a car. We asked about it, gave him a deposit to hold the car. If i didn't get the car within a week if i remember right, they'd keep the deposit, and put it back on the lot. I had to work the last day of that week, so my brother took the money to them to give them the deposit. His words were that i would be making the payments for the car to the dealer. Guess they said nothing. Processed the payment, gave him the keys, and there's the car. Like i said, i was making payments on the car which was to his name. Time passed, **** happened and they deemed the account deliquent after 36 days non-payment, came and took their property back.

Now i can see you snickering, which is your right. Letter of the law, i ****ed up. Not really looking for sympathy (law don't do sympathy), just the advice, and i figured i'd give you a laugh knowing that.
 

acmb05

Senior Member
No, your brother and you have conspired to defraud the lender by violating the terms of the contract.

And, I hope you enjoyed what you've placed in your brother :rolleyes:
And just how did they do that? It is not against the law to let someone else use your car or make payments on it.
 

racer72

Senior Member
And just how did they do that? It is not against the law to let someone else use your car or make payments on it.
Where did Zigner say any laws were broken? But it very likely is a violation of the contract the OP's brother made with the lender, he could not reassign it without the lender's permission. This is called fraud.
 

acmb05

Senior Member
Where did Zigner say any laws were broken? But it very likely is a violation of the contract the OP's brother made with the lender, he could not reassign it without the lender's permission. This is called fraud.
That is a stretch, highly unlikely they are going to prove fraud when it was the owners brother. He simply loaned his brother the car to drive.

Oh and btw fraud is against the law. Hence the law being broken.
 
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markivan

Member
Where did Zigner say any laws were broken? But it very likely is a violation of the contract the OP's brother made with the lender, he could not reassign it without the lender's permission. This is called fraud.
By reassign, you mean move the financial responsibilty of the car to me? Have them put the car to my name?
 

markivan

Member
Yes. The lender would have to approve such a move.
I guess there's no telling if they'd approve it, or could approve it, POST reposession, but if it's possible id try it. My credit would be blown as opposed to his.

But financial responsibility and ownership are two different things right?
 

markivan

Member
Is this applicable?

I was reasearching and came across this regarding my situation as listed above. Is this applicable to my situation and if so, am i understanding this right to mean that i, as the 'debtor', need to fufill all of subsections A-D?

Lawriter - ORC - 1317.12 Default - notice, curing.

1317.12 Default - notice, curing.
Notwithstanding any agreement to the contrary in a retail installment contract made on or after the effective date of this section, if collateral for a consumer transaction is taken possession of by the secured party on default, the secured party shall, within five business days after taking possession, send to the debtor a notice setting forth specifically the circumstances constituting the default and the amount by itemization that the debtor is required to pay to cure the default. Any notice required by section 1309.611 or 1317.16 of the Revised Code may be included as part of the notice required by this section. A secured party who disposes of the collateral without sending notice required by this section may not recover the costs of retaking possession of the collateral and is not entitled to a deficiency judgment.

The debtor may cure the default within twenty days after the secured party retakes possession of the collateral, or within fifteen days after the secured party sends the notice required by this section, whichever is later, by delivering to the secured party the following:

(A) All installments due or past due at the time of such delivery;

(B) Any unpaid delinquency or deferred charges;

(C) The actual and reasonable expenses incurred by the secured party in retaking possession of the collateral provided that any portion of such expenses which exceeds twenty-five dollars need not be delivered to the secured party pursuant to this division, but shall be added to the time balance;

(D) A deposit by cash or bond in the amount of two installments, to secure the timely payment of future installments by the debtor. The secured party may apply such cash or the proceeds of such bond toward the satisfaction of the debt in the event of another default by the debtor.

During the period between the time a secured party retakes possession of the collateral and the expiration or exercise of the debtor’s right to cure the default, the secured party shall make the collateral available for inspection by the debtor during reasonable hours.

If the debtor cures the default, the debtor may take possession of the collateral. The secured party shall assemble the collateral and make it available to the debtor at a time and place that is reasonably convenient to both parties. If the debtor requests the secured party to return the collateral to the place from which it was taken, the secured party may charge the debtor the actual and reasonable expenses incurred in returning the collateral to the place from which it was taken, which amount shall be added to the time balance.

A debtor’s right to cure the default pursuant to this section may not be exercised more than once with respect to a single debt.

A secured party who reasonably believes that a debtor intends to conceal or remove the collateral from this state after curing the default may, within five days after retaking possession of the collateral, move in a court of competent jurisdiction that the secured party be allowed to retain possession of the collateral as security for the debt. If the court finds reasonable cause to believe that the debtor intends to conceal the collateral or remove it from this state, it shall order that the collateral remain in the possession of the secured party, notwithstanding the other provisions of this section. If the debtor cures the default, the secured party shall not dispose of the collateral unless the debtor again defaults, and the secured party shall make such collateral available to the debtor when the debt is paid in full.

Effective Date: 07-01-2001
 

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