Cracked glass door

[squallnoctis]

It was night, and I accidentally walked into a restaurant glass door and now they want me to pay to repair the door. The problem is that there's no proper warning on the glass door; it's a clear door with no sign, no nothing. Is there a way to post pictures in this forum? Anyway, what do you think? Am I still liable for cracking the door despite the fact that it was a clear door with no proper warning.

 

[squallnoctis]

I'm in New York City btw.

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

It is probably safe to assume other people do not walk into it and break it. I would say you are certainly liable for the damage you caused.

 

[LdiJ]

It is probably safe to assume other people do not walk into it and break it. I would say you are certainly liable for the damage you caused.

That is not necessarily accurate. It would depend on a lot of information that we don't currently have.

 

[Banned_Princess]

Its winter. Why did you think the door was open? were you drinking?

 

[LdiJ]

Its winter. Why did you think the door was open? were you drinking?

You are assuming its a door to the outside.

 

[Banned_Princess]

I guess I am. the better assumption is she was drinking. lol. I think she probably owes for the door, but without the photo its hard to say if the establishment has any responsibility. I cant immagine the door was invisable. Glass is easy to miss, but not invisable. Also, not sure there is a requirement that doors have signs on them. a good idea, yes, but required? I dont know... Sorry about the spelling, Im using a primitive phone.

 

[squallnoctis]

No I was not drinking. In fact, I don't drink alcohol. It was a door in. Usually, these restaurants have 2 doors, and I thought the first one was opened. The door was a transparent door with no markings. I actually found a New York Law that states that transparent glass doors has to have proper warnings and markings:

PART 47 TRANSPARENT GLASS DOORS
TRANSPARENT GLASS DOORS IN MERCANTILE ESTABLISHMENTS AND IN PUBLIC AND COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES

(Statutory authority: Labor Law, §§27-a, 27, 29, 241-b)


I posted pictures and link to the law, but that is awaiting moderator approval.

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

http://labor.ny.gov/workerprotection/safetyhealth/sh47.shtm

We have no way to determine whether it was in compliance or met an exception.

 

[Banned_Princess]

yes. pictures are definately needed. maybe you can name the place.

 

[squallnoctis]

google my wordpress account. squallnoctis168 on wordpress for pictures.

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

You really could not tell that was a closed glass door!!!??? The frame and door handles were not a dead giveaway? It does appear you have a valid marking argument though.

 

[squallnoctis]

The frames, no. They're rather thin frames. As for the door handle, I was walking with a friend, and he was on the right of me, and I was just looking straight ahead. Regardless, the referenced law was made with the assumption that doors have handles no? As I said, I doubt I'm the first person to accidentally walk into a glass door.

 

[Banned_Princess]

The frames, no. They're rather thin frames. As for the door handle, I was walking with a friend, and he was on the right of me, and I was just looking straight ahead. Regardless, the referenced law was made with the assumption that doors have handles no? As I said, I doubt I'm the first person to accidentally walk into a glass door.

no you are not. its usually hil arious. lol.

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

I am not arguing the fact you appear to have a valid argument. I just think you were negligent. That does not always translate into guilty. Everyone sooner or later has a blonde moment.