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10-27-2009, 07:33 PM
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| | | Filing When Undocumented. What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? California
I am working for this pallet company and they still owe me $600.
If I file for small claims, do I risk deportation? | 
10-27-2009, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DjEra What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? California
I am working for this pallet company and they still owe me $600.
If I file for small claims, do I risk deportation? | Do you mean undocumented as "illegal entry", or undocumented as in "overstayed"? (yes it can make a difference).
And are you asking if it's OK to sue the company who happens to be hiring you illegally?
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10-27-2009, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dogmatique Do you mean undocumented as "illegal entry", or undocumented as in "overstayed"? (yes it can make a difference).
And are you asking if it's OK to sue the company who happens to be hiring you illegally? |
nah, the person who hired me is also illegal... he aslo runs a pallet company without a license.
I wanted to sue for the 600$ he owes me. I live in Los Angeles and I know there is laws that protect me, I am just unaware what they are or who I can go for orientation. | 
10-27-2009, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DjEra nah, the person who hired me is also illegal... he aslo runs a pallet company without a license.
I wanted to sue for the 600$ he owes me. I live in Los Angeles and I know there is laws that protect me, I am just unaware what they are or who I can go for orientation. | Sorry, I cannot help you.
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10-27-2009, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dogmatique Sorry, I cannot help you. |
Don't know much? Or because i'm undocumented? | 
10-27-2009, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DjEra Don't know much? Or because i'm undocumented? | LOL!
Would you humor me please? Why haven't you adjusted status?
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10-27-2009, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dogmatique LOL!
Would you humor me please? Why haven't you adjusted status? | I can't provide the resources needed to resolve my status in this country.
I wouldn't be in this situation if I haven't got paid.
I just want the 600$ he owes me, I worked hard for them and deserve them, not only that but my children need them. | 
10-27-2009, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DjEra I can't provide the resources needed to resolve my status in this country.
I wouldn't be in this situation if I haven't got paid.
I just want the 600$ he owes me, I worked hard for them and deserve them, not only that but my children need them. | Here's the problem. You are both doing something illegal. A court is simply not going to enforce what is essentially an illegal contract.
Get your status sorted out, then you can work legally and this won't happen again.
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10-27-2009, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Dogmatique Here's the problem. You are both doing something illegal. A court is simply not going to enforce what is essentially an illegal contract.
Get your status sorted out, then you can work legally and this won't happen again. | There must be something I could do...
Anyways I will keep trying.. Maybe CHIRLA can help.. Thanks for you're knowledge | 
10-27-2009, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DjEra There must be something I could do...
Anyways I will keep trying.. Maybe CHIRLA can help.. Thanks for you're knowledge | CHIRLA are not above the law (and what you're trying to do is enforce an illegal agreement - again the courts are not going to do that); they cannot trump State and/or Federal regulations.
(and please be aware - this is a LEGAL board. It's not set up to aid illegal actions, y'know?)
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10-27-2009, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dogmatique CHIRLA are not above the law (and what you're trying to do is enforce an illegal agreement - again the courts are not going to do that); they cannot trump State and/or Federal regulations.
(and please be aware - this is a LEGAL board. It's not set up to aid illegal actions, y'know?) | I never said CHIRLA was above the law. Please quote me with bold letters on that. I wll only go there to seek advise. According to some lawyers in the state of California Immigrant workers have laws that protect them from employers.
I am not here to beef, I am just here to seek advise as told before.
CHIRLA might not be above the law.. but GOD is..
At the end we all pay for our wrong doings...
have a blessed day | 
10-27-2009, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DjEra I never said CHIRLA was above the law. Please quote me with bold letters on that. I wll only go there to seek advise. According to some lawyers in the state of California Immigrant workers have laws that protect them from employers.
I am not here to beef, I am just here to seek advise as told before.
CHIRLA might not be above the law.. but GOD is..
At the end we all pay for our wrong doings...
have a blessed day | In this country God isn't above the law - sorry. But back to the point....
Yes, there are many laws protecting both immigrant workers and immigrant employers. Yes, he can be penalized for employing you - and yes, you can be penalized for working illegally.
Honestly? You really need to sit down and figure out if $600 is worth your family being apart, and you being deported.
Call a few local immigration attorneys and see what they say. I am aware that though the law can say one thing, in South Texas, California, New Mexico and a few other places certain rules are not as heavily enforced.
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10-27-2009, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dogmatique In this country God isn't above the law - sorry. But back to the point....
Yes, there are many laws protecting both immigrant workers and immigrant employers. But as you are not a legal immigrant to begin with you're going to find your options very, very, very limited. Yes, he can be penalized for employing you - and yes, you can be penalized for working illegally.
Honestly? You really need to sit down and figure out if $600 is worth your family being apart, and you being deported.
Call a few local immigration attorneys and see what they say. I am aware that though the law can say one thing, in South Texas, California, New Mexico and a few other places certain rules are not as heavily enforced. | hence the reason I will keep asking | 
10-27-2009, 11:03 PM
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| | | To clarify:
Quite honestly if you're to be successful the only avenue where you stand a chance is by with employment laws. Small claims cannot help you with your situation but yes, there are protections available under labor/employment rules although these laws cannot protect you from eventually ending up in deportation proceedings.
Be careful. Ask yourself if it's truly worth it.
(and I can't emphasize enough the importance of you adjusting your status as soon as possible - I'm hoping that you overstayed versus entering the country without inspection)
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10-27-2009, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dogmatique To clarify:
Quite honestly if you're to be successful the only avenue where you stand a chance is by with employment laws. Small claims cannot help you with your situation but yes, there are protections available under labor/employment rules although these laws cannot protect you from eventually ending up in deportation proceedings.
Be careful. Ask yourself if it's truly worth it.
(and I can't emphasize enough the importance of you adjusting your status as soon as possible - I'm hoping that you overstayed versus entering the country without inspection) | Thanks for the heads up, I am sure my status should be resolved asap but atm economy is hitting us the hardest. I well know I have all the requirements to become a producing resident... It's all about my resources, mainly cash... And ofc I won't risk being deported... My kids are citizens of this country, I don't think what they would do in a foreign country.
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