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smpesarchick

Junior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Ohio
I loaned a man a sum of money in 2008 for 6 months. The contract terms were (by his hands) 6% on the amount over the term. Eight percent on all overdue payments - per day - until paid. It's been 2 yrs and 4 months and he hasn't even finished the principle. I was told by an attorney that the max interest you can charge on a loan in Ohio is 3%. Is this true??! How is it calculated? I do not have the $750 retainer to hire help. Thanks
 


tranquility

Senior Member
I hesitate to answer as usury laws are always quite slippery and filled with exceptions and qualifications. With a quick search, I found:
1343.01 Maximum rate of interest.

(A) The parties to a bond, bill, promissory note, or other instrument of writing for the forbearance or payment of money at any future time, may stipulate therein for the payment of interest upon the amount thereof at any rate not exceeding eight per cent per annum payable annually, except as authorized in division (B) of this section.

(B) Any party may agree to pay a rate of interest in excess of the maximum rate provided in division (A) of this section when:

(1) The original amount of the principal indebtedness stipulated in the bond, bill, promissory note, or other instrument of writing exceeds one hundred thousand dollars;

(2) The payment is to a broker or dealer registered under the “Securities Exchange Act of 1934,” 48 Stat. 881, 15 U.S.C. 78A, as amended, for carrying a debit balance in an account for a customer if such debit balance is payable on demand and secured by stocks, bonds or other securities;

(3) The instrument evidences a loan secured by a mortgage or deed of trust on real estate where the loan has been approved, insured, guaranteed, purchased, or for which an offer or commitment to insure, guarantee, or purchase, has been received, in whole or in part, by the federal government or any agency or instrumentality thereof, the federal national mortgage association, the federal home loan mortgage corporation, or the farmers home administration, all of which is authorized pursuant to the “National Housing Act,” 12 U.S.C. 1701; the “Serviceman’s Readjustment Act,” 38 U.S.C. 1801; the “Federal Home Loan Bank Act,” 12 U.S.C. 1421; and the “Rural Housing Act,” 42 U.S.C. 1471, amendments thereto, reenactments thereof, enactments parallel thereto, or in substitution therefor, or regulations issued thereunder; or by the state or any agency or instrumentality thereof authorized pursuant to Chapter 122. of the Revised Code, or rules issued thereunder.

(4) The instrument evidences a loan secured by a mortgage, deed of trust or land installment contract on real estate which does not otherwise qualify for exemption from the provisions of this section, except that such rate of interest shall not exceed eight per cent in excess of the discount rate on ninety-day commercial paper in effect at the federal reserve bank in the fourth federal reserve district at the time the mortgage, deed of trust, or land installment contract is executed.

(5) The instrument is payable on demand or in one installment and is not secured by household furnishings or other goods used for personal, family, or household purposes.

(6)(a) The loan is a business loan to a business association or partnership, a person owning and operating a business as a sole proprietor; any persons owning and operating a business as joint venturers, joint tenants, or tenants in common; any limited partnership; or any trustee owning or operating a business or whose beneficiaries own or operate a business, except that:

(i) Any loan which is secured by an assignment of an individual obligor’s salary, wages, commissions, or other compensation for services or by his household furniture or other goods used for his personal, family, or household purposes shall be deemed not a loan within the meaning of division (B)(6) of this section;

(ii) Any loan which otherwise qualifies as a business loan within the meaning of division (B)(6) of this section shall not be deemed disqualified because of the inclusion, with other security consisting of business assets of any such obligor, of real estate occupied by an individual obligor solely as his residence.

(b) As used in division (B)(6)(a) of this section, “business” means a commercial, agricultural, or industrial enterprise which is carried on for the purpose of investment or profit. “Business” does not mean the ownership or maintenance of real estate occupied by an individual obligor solely as his residence.

Effective Date: 06-29-1988
The 8% per day is problematical. If so, the loan may be void.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
I hesitate to answer as usury laws are always quite slippery and filled with exceptions and qualifications. With a quick search, I found:
The 8% per day is problematical. If so, the loan may be void.
The 6% for 6 months is ALSO a problem. That's 12% per annum.
 

justalayman

Senior Member
Eight percent on all overdue payments - per day - until paid
I can assure you 2920% interest annually (don't even want to figure it out as compounded rate) is definitely usury.

as well, thanks to latigos post,

The contract terms were (by his hands) 6% on the amount over the term.
is also beyond the legal limits.
What the attorney was referring to with the 3% was likely due to it being a 6 month term.

so, with that, you might want to just consider the loan paid in full and move on.

Heck, depending what he has paid, you might actually owe him money.
 
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smpesarchick

Junior Member
:( Thank you so much for a straightforward answer to a nagging question. I am so upset. He drew up and specified the terms of the loan agreement. He told me that he is a non-practicing attorney (Fla, I believe) who is pursuing patents and the manufacturing of a number of products. He lives in a 900K house, has a BMW, Jaguar, and Jimmy, a personal trainer and he travels. The money was an inheritance from an Aunt that I wanted to invest. I'm on SSDI, have no assets, savings or family members with any money. My 98 Voyager just died for the last time. I have no car and he refuses to give me anymore than 500 a month, and not one day before the third Weds of the month. I've begged and threatened and cried. Nothing. -- He intentionally screwed me! I'm beyond despair.
Thank you again for clarifying an issue that I've been terrified to see clearly. Regards, Sara
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
:( Thank you so much for a straightforward answer to a nagging question. I am so upset. He drew up and specified the terms of the loan agreement. He told me that he is a non-practicing attorney (Fla, I believe) who is pursuing patents and the manufacturing of a number of products. He lives in a 900K house, has a BMW, Jaguar, and Jimmy, a personal trainer and he travels. The money was an inheritance from an Aunt that I wanted to invest. I'm on SSDI, have no assets, savings or family members with any money. My 98 Voyager just died for the last time. I have no car and he refuses to give me anymore than 500 a month, and not one day before the third Weds of the month. I've begged and threatened and cried. Nothing. -- He intentionally screwed me! I'm beyond despair.
Thank you again for clarifying an issue that I've been terrified to see clearly. Regards, Sara
How much money did you loan him?
 

justalayman

Senior Member
- He intentionally screwed me!
now you know why he has a Jag, a Bimmer, and a Jimmy, and a $900k house while you have a 98 Voyager that no longer runs. Sorry to hear of the situation but it sounds like you may be stuck with what he will toss your way.
 

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