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Old 09-14-2009, 11:49 PM
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vacating SSDI


What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? NY

I have what is likely a perplexing question that i cannot find the answer to anywhere.

If someone is currently receiving SSDI, but they are faking it, is there a lawyer that will handle this type of issue?

I will attempt to be brief and more clear.

A person is diagnosed with MS. apply's for SSI and gets denied. Same person hires a lawyer, establishes whatever evidence is needed, goes in front of admistrative law judge. Judge awards person SSI.

Upon reading the decision, all of the doctors that SSI sent person to, claim there is no disability. multiple other doctors say that there is no disability.

Yet Judge still allowed benefits.

So, again, is there a lawyer that can be hired to appeal the favorable decision?

I will be happy to answer any questions in regards to this, however i may not return until tomorrow night, in the interim, please feel free to respond

thank you in advance.
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Old 09-15-2009, 02:31 AM
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How are you related to this person who gets SSDI.

Did this person perjure themselves before the admin. law judge or did the judge just give them a lot of lee-way when deciding the case?

If judge had the full record including both evidence for and against the claim, then there is no fault with the recipient. The judge is sole trier of fact in these cases. The social security administration can appeal the case to the "Appeals Council" if it feels the judge was completely of out of line, though this is very unlikely.

You as a private citizen have NO STANDING WHATSOEVER to challenge this matter. You are not a party to this matter. Period.

Feel free to write to the fraud department of the SSA; don't expect a response.

--dbernat32
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:40 AM
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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? NY

I have what is likely a perplexing question that i cannot find the answer to anywhere.

If someone is currently receiving SSDI, but they are faking it, is there a lawyer that will handle this type of issue?

I will attempt to be brief and more clear.

A person is diagnosed with MS. apply's for SSI and gets denied. Same person hires a lawyer, establishes whatever evidence is needed, goes in front of admistrative law judge. Judge awards person SSI.

Upon reading the decision, all of the doctors that SSI sent person to, claim there is no disability. multiple other doctors say that there is no disability.

Yet Judge still allowed benefits.

So, again, is there a lawyer that can be hired to appeal the favorable decision?

I will be happy to answer any questions in regards to this, however i may not return until tomorrow night, in the interim, please feel free to respond

thank you in advance.
Who are you to this claim ?

How did you receive ALL the file information ?
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:15 PM
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How are you related to this person who gets SSDI.

Did this person perjure themselves before the admin. law judge or did the judge just give them a lot of lee-way when deciding the case?

If judge had the full record including both evidence for and against the claim, then there is no fault with the recipient. The judge is sole trier of fact in these cases. The social security administration can appeal the case to the "Appeals Council" if it feels the judge was completely of out of line, though this is very unlikely.

You as a private citizen have NO STANDING WHATSOEVER to challenge this matter. You are not a party to this matter. Period.

Feel free to write to the fraud department of the SSA; don't expect a response.

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I do believe that they perjured themselves, but i would need a complete testimony transcript to be able to pick it apart. Knowing this person as well as i do, i have no doubt in my mind that they did indeed perjur themselves.

I know that they testified that they were unable to work due to chronic fatigue and needs to lay down for 3-4 hours in a normal 9=5 work day, yet this person has gone white water rafting, at least 3 extended weekend camping trips. Multiple amusement parks etc etc. Further they volunteer at the local elementary school while it is in session.

I could go on and on, but the point becomes moot. I know beyond the shadow of a doubt that this person is not disabled. and it bothers me because i see plenty of people that actually are disabled and cannot get the disability when needed.



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Who are you to this claim ?

How did you receive ALL the file information ?
What relevance does this have to my question? kindly explain this to me?

Does it really make a difference in the answer?

Let me just say that i truly have a vested interest in whether or not this person collects benefits.
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Old 09-15-2009, 06:59 PM
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Obviously after retaining council , the individual was approved .

You obviously do not know the entire context of events leading up to approval .

There are many folks that are initially denied,retain council,and then are approved .
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And SSDI comes from what the disabled person pays into the system, not from the general tax funds.

SSI comes from the general tax funds that we all pay.
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Old 09-16-2009, 06:35 PM
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Obviously after retaining council , the individual was approved .

You obviously do not know the entire context of events leading up to approval .

There are many folks that are initially denied,retain council,and then are approved .

BL, I am not trying to get into a pissing match with you, I understand that they were approved after retaining council, as i stated in the beggining. I dont know all of the events that lead up to the approval, i only know what i read in the reports, which states that the doctors that the state sent them to stated that they were not disabled, and other doctors that this person saw agreed that they were not disabled. However the judge gave those doctors limited weight because they were only seen one time by these doctors.

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And SSDI comes from what the disabled person pays into the system, not from the general tax funds.

SSI comes from the general tax funds that we all pay.
Thank you, i did not know that.

Does SSDI go on for life or only for a limited amount of time?

I will have to check and see which one they are on.
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Old 09-16-2009, 07:10 PM
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It's none of your business .

No pissing match ,just stating the facts .
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:07 PM
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It's none of your business .

No pissing match ,just stating the facts .
No actually you are only interjecting your opinion, and while everyone is entitled to theirs, you are clearly just being a fool.

And I too am now stating the facts.

You dont have to reply to this post if you have no valuable information to share, and judging from your previous posts**************you don't.
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Old 09-18-2009, 11:58 AM
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Someone the person owes money to, an ex-wife/ex husband, spurned gf/bf, someone who is tired of working and was turned down, nosey neighbor with a grudge, disgruntled relative who has an axe to grind.

Bet you fall into at least one of those categories. You want to hire an attorney to prove the person is faking disability. Call your local bar association, and good luck with that.
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