What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? California
Hi all,
I was recently cited with a 52 in a 35 ticket, with a CVC 22350. This was cited by LIDAR as the officer told me, as well as noted on the citation. The citation also noted that the weather was clear, dry, and traffic was medium. Because it was LIDAR, i was also at the front of the group of cars.
Now, I have heard of the defense against the basic speed law but I also looked into researching the engineering and traffic survey.
Knowing that the survey may be out of date after 5 years, I requested a copy of the survey from city hall. First, the street I was on was not a local road, street, or school zone (the road is has 2 lanes in each direction with a landscaped center divider). However, this is where things got confusing:
The title page of the survey says June 2003, and under it is the ordinance number along with an "Approved Nov 2003." However, inside the survey itself, it says that the radar surveys were conducted in March, 2003.
The reason this is confusing is because CVC 40802(a)(2) states:
I suppose this might be irrelevant too, since the critical speed is > 45 but the speed limit was set at 35, which by the Caltrans rules at the time, would be far too low.
Hi all,
I was recently cited with a 52 in a 35 ticket, with a CVC 22350. This was cited by LIDAR as the officer told me, as well as noted on the citation. The citation also noted that the weather was clear, dry, and traffic was medium. Because it was LIDAR, i was also at the front of the group of cars.
Now, I have heard of the defense against the basic speed law but I also looked into researching the engineering and traffic survey.
Knowing that the survey may be out of date after 5 years, I requested a copy of the survey from city hall. First, the street I was on was not a local road, street, or school zone (the road is has 2 lanes in each direction with a landscaped center divider). However, this is where things got confusing:
The title page of the survey says June 2003, and under it is the ordinance number along with an "Approved Nov 2003." However, inside the survey itself, it says that the radar surveys were conducted in March, 2003.
The reason this is confusing is because CVC 40802(a)(2) states:
Emphasis of mine on the word conducted. The reason I ask is because the November date would include my citation within the 5 year limit but the other two dates would mean this survey was out of date, and thus the speed trap argument can be used. Would conducted in this case mean when the radar survey was done (March), when the survey was (assumed) to be written (July), or when the survey was approved by the city (November)?the vehicle to travel the known distance.
(2) A particular section of a highway with a prima facie speed
limit that is provided by this code or by local ordinance under
subparagraph (A) of paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) of Section
22352, or established under Section 22354, 22357, 22358, or 22358.3,
if that prima facie speed limit is not justified by an engineering
and traffic survey conducted within five years prior to the date of
the alleged violation, and enforcement of the speed limit involves
the use of radar or any other electronic device that measures the
speed of moving objects. This paragraph does not apply to a local
street, road, or school zone.
I suppose this might be irrelevant too, since the critical speed is > 45 but the speed limit was set at 35, which by the Caltrans rules at the time, would be far too low.
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