3rd Speeding Ticket in 12 months.

What is the name of your state? MI.


Hi All.

I recently got a ticket for 90/65 in I-80 in OH.

I belong to Michigan and I have two tickets in Michigan.

I went to Pre-trail to the court. The officer was not there. I was happy. But I was told by the prosecutor that only for trails they call the officers not for pre-trails. This is my first court appearance and hence I just accepted his words and told him I will go for trial.
I am worried about my lincense getting suspended. I got first ticket - 12 Dec 2002, second ticket July 4th 2003, third - Aug 30 2003. I am really confused now. Wheather to go for a lawer or plead guilty.
I consulted two law firms but they are threatening me that its very big problem and they have no guarantee but feed is too high. I am really not aware were I am. Please note this ticket is from OH for the first time, so any luck for being in MI state. I am not worried about insurance but bottom line is I have to drive 80 miles daily for my bread (Job).

I would really appreciate your help on my situation.

Thanks
raj.

[dequeendistress]

I am really not aware were I am

I am really confused now

That makes two of us...

I believe you will find your driving record as a whole is the issue, not which state you were in to get the latest speeding violation ticket.

Feed the attorney, I believe you may need one.

IF you would stay off the pig trails maybe you would receive less tickets.

If you are going to trial----then you are pleading innocent....you need an attorney sir.

Hi,
Thanks for your advice.
But I have a very basic question : Does OH and MI share the voilations. From one of the theads in this forum , I did not see Michigan in the list.
--- non resident voilation compact----
Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut,Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois,Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine,Maryland, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada,New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia,
Washington, West Virginia, Wyoming.
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Can you please tell me can I go ahead an pay the fine instead of going thru all the hassels of the court process.

thanks
Raj.

[JETX]

"But I have a very basic question : Does OH and MI share the voilations. From one of the theads in this forum , I did not see Michigan in the list."
*** That is correct. MI is not a member of the NRVC (Non-Resident Violators Compact). But that does not mean that they don't 'share' out of state violation records.

"Can you please tell me can I go ahead an pay the fine instead of going thru all the hassels of the court process."
*** You can certainly plead guilty or nolo contrende (same thing) and request the amount of the fine.

Thanks for your prompt reply.

I'm little lost when you say
"That is correct. MI is not a member of the NRVC (Non-Resident Violators Compact). But that does not mean that they don't 'share' out of state violation records.
"

Then does that mean NRVC is not a stead fast rule between the states. So is it possible to request the pro se not to report the violation to MI, and I shall go ahead and pay the fine. By the way , Does insurance people have their own driving record or do they rely on the states record for their calculations.

By the way, Is it possible to hire a affordable lawer in OH, local to the county. I am in MI. Any references will be highly appreciated.

thanks
raj.

[JETX]

"Then does that mean NRVC is not a stead fast rule between the states."
*** Those states that are members are expected to exchange data. Those that are not members can do so if they wish.

"So is it possible to request the pro se not to report the violation to MI"
*** Of course your could request that, but I doubt that they would comply with your request.

"and I shall go ahead and pay the fine."
*** Okay.

"By the way , Does insurance people have their own driving record or do they rely on the states record for their calculations."
*** Most insurance companies maintain their own database of records taken from the states records.

"By the way, Is it possible to hire a affordable lawer in OH, local to the county. I am in MI."
*** Of course it is. It all depends on what is 'affordable' to you.

"Any references will be highly appreciated."
*** You might try [url]www.attorneypages.com/[/url]

[lwpat]

Michigan participates in the NRVC even though they are not a member. The ticket will go on your record just as if you received it in Michigan and you will be assessed the points. However, there is a provision that if you do not show up for court in the other state then Michigan will not assess the points. Since you have already appeared you may have lost this provision. You should get a written determination from the DMV, if that is possible.

Michigan DMV probably routinely ignores this section. How are they going to know if you showed up for court or not? You would also need to check to be sure Michigan classifies your ticket as an infraction.

"257.320a.amended Recording date of conviction, civil infraction
determination, or probate court disposition and number of points;
formula; interview; violation committed in another state.
Sec. 320a.

(1) The secretary of state, within 10 days after the receipt of a
properly prepared abstract from this or another state, shall record the date of conviction, civil infraction determination, or probate court disposition, and the number of points for each, based on the following formula, except as otherwise provided in this section and section 629c:**************...


(9) If a Michigan driver commits a violation in another state
that would be a civil infraction if committed in Michigan, and a
conviction results solely because of the failure of the Michigan
driver to appear in that state to contest the violation, upon
receipt of the abstract of conviction by the secretary of state,
the violation shall be noted on the driver's record, but no points
shall be assessed against his or her driver's license. "


I think you may be confused between drivers license points and insurance points. In many states they amount to the same thing but in some cases the insurance company may assign points and increase your rates even though the state does not. In the above case even if Michigan does not assess points your insurance company probably will and your rates will go even higher than they are now. If you are really concerned about bread then you might consider slowing down.

Hi I really appreciate your time for replying me ( for both jetx and lwpat ). I'll dig deep into your replies once again as you guys are really congnizant in your replies.

thank you, but sure to come back to this thread soon.

thanks
Raj.

[HomeGuru]

Originally posted by yticket4me
Hi I really appreciate your time for replying me ( for both jetx and lwpat ). I'll dig deep into your replies once again as you guys are really congnizant in your replies.

thank you, but sure to come back to this thread soon.

thanks
Raj.

**A: in addition to driving education, you also need some spelling lessons. What is congnizant?

I am sorry

it's : cognizant ( meaning knowledgeful, awareness)

thanks
Raj

[HomeGuru]

And I am sorry that you are still on the road since you tend to speed a lot.

[annefan]

Originally posted by yticket4me
.... bottom line is I have to drive 80 miles daily for my bread (Job).

Just because you have to commute 80 miles doesn't mean you have to travel 80 MPH. Give yourself more time to get to work and SLOW THE HELL DOWN.

[HomeGuru]

There is no exemption in the Ohio or Wisconsin speeding law due to long commutes from home to work and from work to home. and you are correct in that you will not have to worry about insurance. That is, once your license is suspended.

HI,


Thanks for your responses. I am more encouraged and getting more responses than I expected. To be frank, I am not a speedy rash driver. Rather I feel bad about speeding, thinking that I am creating disturbance in the traffic flow. I got all these tickets during my vacation that too in a rental cars. Rental cars are smoother than mine and hence I don't feel like I am speeding. But still I keep watching the speedometer not to exceed 5 miles than the limit. My day was bad and got caught. Anyway Still I am confused, to plea guilty or have a lawer.....

thanks
Raj.

[JETX]

Your own post says nothing about a claim of innocence.

Your crap about "creating disturbance in the traffic flow" and "Rental cars are smoother than mine and hence I don't feel like I am speeding" is just that..... CRAP.

Be a man and accept the responsibility for your actions.... plead guilty, pay your fine and suffer the consequences of your poor driving.