California traffic law question**************...

[Ol'Man]

Texas

My son (a 18 wheeler driver) just called and said he got a ticket in California for speeding and a logbook violation.
He said the cop tore out the page of his log book as evidence and told him to rewrite his log book. Never has this happened before my son said. (tearing out page) Is this cop breaking federal law ?
Thanks
Ol'Man

[abezon]

The officer has a right to secure the evidence so your son can't change the log book page after the fact. Did the cop gove him a receipt for the page?

[I AM ALWAYS LIABLE]

Originally posted by Ol'Man
Texas

My son (a 18 wheeler driver) just called and said he got a ticket in California for speeding and a logbook violation.
He said the cop tore out the page of his log book as evidence and told him to rewrite his log book. Never has this happened before my son said. (tearing out page) Is this cop breaking federal law ?
Thanks
Ol'Man

My response:

By your statement, "Never has this happened before my son said", this is apparently a continuing problem with your son. Since your son has a difficult time following the law, and continuing to be a danger to the motoring public, I certainly hope the judge permanently yanks his license.

We don't need truckers on the road like your son.

IAAL

Originally posted by I AM ALWAYS LIABLE
My response:

By your statement, "Never has this happened before my son said", this is apparently a continuing problem with your son. Since your son has a difficult time following the law, and continuing to be a danger to the motoring public, I certainly hope the judge permanently yanks his license.

We don't need truckers on the road like your son.

IAAL

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE ,
You can't be real or maybe you are, anyways your response was uncalled for someone needs to slap your mama!

[Ol'Man]

I appreciate your replies. I didn't give my son's reply to the ticket as I wanted to see a few replies first. He said he was not speeding and was ticketed unjustly. He has been a driver for about 10 years. Bad Things Often Happen To Good People. Just because you are issued a speeding ticket does not mean you are Guilty. I know for a fact that many traffic tickets are more about Revenue than safety. They target 18 wheelers because they are easy and from out of town.

Copies of tickets are being faxed with a detailed account of the incident as I post here.

Now to sweeten the pot, my son is a member of a team, (thats 2 drivers in one truck) the second driver also got a ticket for speeding and logbook violations. Amazing, two drivers, both get speeding tickets, that's a first.

@ abezon: No, he did not give him anything but a ticket. Same with the other driver who was not driving.

@ I AM ALWAYS LIABLE: Your nick fits you well. It appeares you know little of all possible logbook violations. All violations do not necessarlly mean that the driver is a danger to the public. I shall forgive you of your hastily made decision not knowing all the facts and from reading some of your previous posts in other threads... "Are you one of the one's that rushed to judgement and nailed Jesus to the cross" ? ? ? Those of you without sin cast the first stone at the accused.

@ kcdogg: Thanks for your support, he replied as I expected.

As California is well known by all the 18 wheeler drivers for it's politicians and their methods of collecting revenue for the state, via the cops. This also applies to many other states too.

Any comments in the nature of help will be appreciated.

Thanks
Ol'Man

[lwpat]

Good post.

I second that motion, great post! And yes states use tickets as a source of revenue as do cities. Though this example is not directly related, In fullerton, ca they have this parking thing going on, I believe it is on the east and south sides of the street through out the city and there is no parking from 2am and 5am, but yet they do not ticket all the time, they only do so about twice a year and sweep the city in the process and the fine is 20.00 and most of them come in areas where there are houses and apartments. The city says someone who lives in the houses generate the complaints, but it is really odd that the city has no rhyme or reason for the timing of the tickets or for why the law was even put into effect. Sense?Not! Revenue generating? Yes! I'm pretty sure they reap a whole lot of cash for this obsolete law which was created way back when there weren't many apartments.

[lwpat]

Abezon is correct that the officer can take the logbook as evidence.

Interpretations

§395.8 Driver's Record of Duty Status

Question 9: May a duplicate copy of a record of duty status be submitted if an original was seized by an enforcement official?

Guidance: A driver must prepare a second original record of duty status to replace any page taken by an enforcement official. The driver should note that the first original had been taken by an enforcement official and the circumstances under which it was taken.