Cant afford this ticket in this economy

[jackxx]

I received a speeding ticket in Pa. by the enrad system. I have two questions. I was clocked by one officer and the info was forwarded to another who wrote the ticket. I have always thought that the officer who sees the violation is the one who has to write the ticket. True or false? Secondly they set the system up near their township border and were writing all the tickets in the adjacent township. Legal?

[Ozark_Sophist]

Originally Posted by jackxx

I received a speeding ticket in Pa. by the enrad system. I have two questions. I was clocked by one officer and the info was forwarded to another who wrote the ticket. I have always thought that the officer who sees the violation is the one who has to write the ticket. True or false? Secondly they set the system up near their township border and were writing all the tickets in the adjacent township. Legal?

If you can't afford a ticket in this economy, slow down--no more tickets and you will get better gas mileage, thus saving you double the money.

Aside from that moral advice, the facts as described sound legal.

[I_Got_Banned]

Originally Posted by jackxx

I have always thought that the officer who sees the violation is the one who has to write the ticket. True or false?

False…
The only issue with a citation that was issued after a joint effort by two police officers is that if only one officer were to appear in court, he could not testify as to what the other officer saw/witnessed/did; that would be considered hearsay. And hearsay is inadmissible and that will cause the prosecutions case to fall apart.
Easy solution though: Why not have both officers show up in court, both officers testify, each to what he saw/witnessed/did… If in fact this was part of an operation that was conducted over a couple hours or longer, they court might even schedule all if not most of those cited drivers who may choose to take their case to trial to appear on the same date or over two consecutive dates making it easy for both officers to be there to offer a complete story against the cited driver.

Originally Posted by jackxx

Secondly they set the system up near their township border and were writing all the tickets in the adjacent township. Legal?

Perfectly legal!
Adjacent town, cities even counties will typically have mutual agreements that allow law enforcement agencies from a neighboring town, city, county run across said border for an enforcement stop (that way they don't have to give up on a pursuit) or an operation similar to this. It usually benefits both jurisdictions in the same way.

[jackxx]

Originally Posted by Ozark_Sophist

If you can't afford a ticket in this economy, slow down--no more tickets and you will get better gas mileage, thus saving you double the money.

Aside from that moral advice, the facts as described sound legal.

Thanks for the response. The speed limit is 25 mph on the way down a hill that you would be doing 45 mph if you were not standing on your break. Then you must go back up the hill on the other side. Although your advice in fuel economy has merit in this situation it is completely the opposite.

[I_Got_Banned]

Originally Posted by jackxx

... The speed limit is 25 mph on the way down a hill that you would be doing 45 mph if you were not standing on your break....

See that's where you're going about it the wrong way!

It doesn't matter whether you're standing or sitting on your break.

As for your speed while you drive down the hill, if you would step on your brake pedal accordingly, then you might not double the speed limit!!!

[Maestro64]

Here is information about ENRAD

[url=http://www.radardetector.net/forums/speed-trap-info/19422-what-enradd-how-beat.html]What is the ENRADD and how to beat it. - Radar Detector Jammer Forum[/url]

It is a long post, but there are a few possible defenses against ENRAD, look near the end page 8 and beyond. It is not a perfect system as they would like people to believe it has faults which can cause higher speeds then actual.

Next, you were involved in the multi-officer operation so both have to show at the court. Local towns generally do not have both show since they do not want to spend the money either since the town only makes $12.50 for each ticket the rest of your money goes to the court and the PA CAT fund. So they tend to only send the one who wrote the ticket, not the one who actually observed the violation, without that person the state can not win if you know what you are doing.

Most likely, if you show up they will offer you a no points ticket if you agree to plead guilty and pay the fine.