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Old 02-11-2002, 04:42 AM
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Careless driving? Yup, BS though


I was at a friends house (watching sex in the city, which ends at 10:30pm) and we decided to go meet with the racers who meet at 10:45pm at a local movie theater to shoot the **** with them. A little before 10:45 we are nearing the theater and they all start to leave and I follow. We drive around for 10 minutes or so and chill at the back of a Target for a little more than 5 minutes. We then drive to the front of the target and meet up with 3-4 more cars, talk for 10 or so minutes. We all begin to follow the first car that leaves, drive for almost 10 minutes and turn on a street. Cars behind me are flashing there lights for me to hurry up, but I don't. My friend, who's ahead of me, pulls over in an apartment complex so that we can meet back up to go and have coffee like we usually do on Sunday nights. I go down the street, turn right and shut off my lights and we start talking about where we want to go. It's currently after 11:15pm. While we're talking we notice 3 cops speeding by and then the lead one slams on his breaks and pulls up behind me.He orders us to sit in our cars.

He uses trick questions to try to get me to admit that I was going t race. I DON'T RACE! He wouldn't accept that. I ask him why am I being pulled over, and he tells me that it will be on the summons (maybe because he didn't have a reason yet). The Supervisor cop is on my friend's side and my friend asks him what are we pulled over for, he says for going 70. 30 over is an automatic reckless driving ticket. They talk some more and then the supervisor says going at least 70 (he can't give a hard number even though they were bragging about how good communication they had with the undercover). My friend asks to see the radar gun, he says ok. But then says that they can't because it's an undercover car, THEN says that the undercover car doesn't have a radar gun.

Anyways, I ask him how he spotted me and he says that the UC reported a Lexus to them and they were driving by (fast mind you). He told me he was expecting a big lexus, not a coupe like mine, he said it looked like an Acura or Z. He saw my Lexus emblems and immediately stopped. Ok.. how did he see my black car with gold emblems in a dark, nonmarked entrance to an under construction apartment complex while driving by at 40+ mph? Even though he said that my car looked like an Acura or Z. Hmmm. He then said that UC gave them my plates... ok, how did he see my plates in the dark, no lights, in a small entrance? He THEN said that UC told him that he was about to miss the turn where I turned. I'm getting LOTS of stories now.

He hands me my summons for careless driving (4 pts), even though that one cop said they had me clocked. I thought cops had to put the most severe penalty on the ticket BY LAW? If it was 70 they would have hauled me directly to jail and impounded my car. Again he gives me conflicting stories. The ticket says that I drove carelessly a block from where I pulled in at 10:45pm. Sure... I did 70mph a block away and yet I was still able to pull into a 1.5 lane in total darkness. I've had enough and tell him that I'll see him in court. The officer backtracked so much, switched stories, and outright lied. I'm happy that I caught the cops lying so bad and really humiliated them but I'm pissed that I'm stuck with this BS charge. Oh, on my ticket he wrote LS400, even though my registration says SC400 and the back of my car says SC400. If he could spot my car in the dark with no lights going 40+ mph and see it's a lexus, then why couldn't he see that my car was a SC400 when he illuminated the back of my car with his lights? Oh, my friend didn't get a ticket.

Sorry I couldn't make it more brief.
This is in Colorado.
I will definitely fight this, any thoughts or suggestions?
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Old 02-11-2002, 12:17 PM
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The info about your car is irrelevent. They could have listed it as a 1929 Chevy and the ticket would still stick. You need the services of an attorney, you should be able to find one that will give you a free consultation. You have more issues than can be comfortably handled on a board such as this.
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