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Cast on Left Leg, Driving

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What is the name of your state? Pennsylvania

I just broke my left ankle this weekend. The ER nurse, and the nurse at the specialists office both told me it is illegal for me to drive. I checked on the DMV website and could find no reference other then a form that doctors must fill in and send to PennDOT if they feel I am impaired and should not drive. That said, is it really illegal for me to drive unless the doctor sends something to PennDOT? It's my left leg and I drive an automatic transmission. I'm not taking any drugs, just OTC (advil and tylenol). Any help would be appreciated.
 


xylene

Senior Member
People with no legs drive. People with no ARMS drive. so :rolleyes:

If you can safely drive in your condition, then you can legally drive.

If you can't drive safely (like you leg is in a angle the blocks pedal or the leg must be held straight,,, whatever I don't care to debate your medical facts.) then it is unsafe operation and is very much illegal.

Ask your primary care doctor (not a nurse or secretary) if you can 'safely drive'

If he say yes.

You say "Doc, could you jot that on a prescription pad please, in case this comes up."

If he says no

You ask "When / how will I know I can safely drive? Can you jot that down?"
 

Hey There

Member
1-23-08

§ 83.1. Purpose.
*****Chapter 15 of the act, these physical and mental criteria shall be used by physicians, CRNPs and physician assistants in conducting physical examinations of applicants for learner’s permits and driver’s licenses and by physicians and other persons authorized to diagnose and treat disorders and disabilities covered in this chapter in determining whether a person examined by the provider should be reported to the Department as having a disorder affecting the ability of the person to drive safely.
83.2CRNP—Certified registered nurse practitioner—A registered nurse licensed in this Commonwealth who is certified, by both the State Board of Nursing and the State Board of Medicine, in a particular clinical specialty area and who, while functioning in the expanded role as a professional nurse, performs acts of medical diagnosis or prescription of medical therapeutic or corrective measures in collaboration with and under the direction of a physician licensed to practice medicine in this Commonwealth.


83.5. Other physical and medical standards
**********
(b) Disqualification on provider’s recommendation. A person who has any of the following conditions will not be qualified to drive if, in the opinion of the provider, the condition is likely to impair the ability to control and safely operate a motor vehicle:

(1) Loss of a joint or extremity as a functional defect or limitation.

(2) Impairment of the use of a joint or extremity as a functional defect or limitation.


(i) The provider should inform the patient of the prohibition against driving due to the functional impairment.

(ii) The provider shall inform the Department in writing of the impairment if the condition has lasted or is expected to last longer than 90 days.

(3) Rheumatic, arthritic, orthopedic, muscular, vascular or neuromuscular disease.

(i) The provider should inform the patient of the prohibition against driving due to the functional impairment.

(ii) The provider shall inform the Department in writing of the impairment if the condition has lasted or is expected to last longer than 90 days.

§ 83.6. Providers to report unqualified persons.
Physicians and other persons authorized to diagnose and treat disorders and disabilities defined by the Medical Advisory Board shall report to the Department, in writing, the full name, date of birth and address of every person 16 years of age and older diagnosed as having any specified disorder or disability within 10 days, under 75 Pa.C.S. § 1518 (relating to reports on mental or physical disabilities or disorders)

Authority

The provisions of this § 83.6 issued under the Vehicle Code, 75 Pa.C.S. § § 1517, 1518 and 6103.

was adopted July 16, 2004, effective July 17, 2004, 34 Pa.B. 3718.

The AMA advises doctors to report only drivers whose impairment poses "a clear risk to public safety" and to first discuss it with them
Did the ER Nurse or the Nurse of the specialist explain to you how an injury to your left ankle would impair you when the right foot is used to control speed and braking of your car?
Some lawyers consult for free or for a small one time fee to answer specific questions.
A primary physician may be able to interceed if in his opinion no impairment exists that would prohibit driving. (see exlene post )

Best Regards,
Hey There
Let us know the outcome!
 
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Well, I only ask because I am in a custody battle with my ex-wife and I have to go to court this week. I don't want to do anything illegal, and the cast/leg does not interfere with my driving at all. I wouldn't even think twice about it, but both nurses said it's illegal to drive and I searched the DMV website and couldn't find anything. I think from the last post it's clear that it is NOT illegal unless the doctor thinks it's a problem and informs PennDOT in writing.
 

TinkerBelleLuvr

Senior Member
Different state. When I broke my ankle, what deterred me from driving was not the fact of the broken ankle; it was the medication I was on for the pain. Now, if you had a stick shift, that would be a different story.

The key is your ability to handle the car responsibly.
 

Hey There

Member
1-24-08
concerneddadof3

Do you have a copy of the medical report on your ankle?

My concern is that 83.1 doesn't appear to restrict an OPINION that a driver's condition prevents him from driving safely to a physician, but allows a physician's assistant and a Certified Registered Nurse Practioner to make the same determination in certain cases.
Which leads to the questions
Concerning your diagnosis and treatment:
Did you speak to the Specialist?
1.Is the ER Nurse-----
2.The Specialist's Nurse
licenced as a RN (Registered Nurse) in PA?
- certified in a clinical specialty area
by the State Board of Nursing ?
by the State Board of Medicine?
performs diagnosis, treatment under the
direction of a MD licenced in PA.?


These appear to be the qualifications the nurse must meet, if as a provider, the nurse ventures an OPINION that the driver in question can't drive safely.
There is NOTHING to prevent a driver to seek an opinion from ANOTHER doctor if the driver believes that the determination that he was unable to drive in a safe manner is wrong.
As a rule a MD Specialist's OPINION tops
a General Practioner's OPINION
whose OPINION tops a physician assistant's,
and a Registered Nurse's OPINION​
.

Best Regards,
Hey There
i
 
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