Chaulk up nothing!!!
Obviously, Banned, I used the term "Speed Trap" generally to describe, to the best of my ability, the circumstances of my citation...a situation that is very commonly referred to (by those outside the legal system) as a "Speed Trap." And I never suggested I'd be claiming "Speed Trap" as my defense. Further, does your "legal reasoning" know what street I was on and that the speed limit on this street is justified by an engineering and traffic survey?
So you came here requesting information. Posted what clearly was an improper legal reference of what constitutes a “speed trap”. I corrected you and offered you a source to properly educate yourself about the legal definition of the term.
And by doing that, I was wrong?
And I never suggested I'd be claiming "Speed Trap" as my defense. Further, does your "legal reasoning" know what street I was on and that the speed limit on this street is justified by an engineering and traffic survey?
Do you see the hypocritical contradiction in your statement?
1st you say you’re NOT claiming a ”Speed Trap” as your defense then you’re asking me about elements that would constitute the basis for a “Speed Trap” defense.
And once again, as proven by that same statement, and considering the fact that you were unaware of the legal definition of a “Speed Trap” defense further proves that you did look into it -after my post- and that you educated yourself about the basic legal knowledge of what constitutes a “Speed Trap”.
Therefore, and whether you want to admit it or not, you benefited from my post…
So if you want to be bitter and angry about me teaching you something you didn’t know, that is your issue; don’t blame me for it!
One would assume; unfortunately, innocent people (w/ legit defenses) are wrongly convicted daily, for crimes and penalties much worse than speeding, I'm afraid. Too often citizens forget that they are innocent till proven guilty even for traffic citations, and officers and courts know this well and exploit it.
Yeah… its all part of a big conspiracy…
You need to re-read and try to begin to understand what I posted before you start preaching to me. I said:
“If you have a legitimate defense then one could assume that you will be fairly found not guilty... Otherwise, you'd have to pay your fine just like every other guilty driver. Right?”
How is any of that wrong?
I have come back, thank you, to say that my case was dismissed. I wasn't guilty
Having a case dismissed has nothing to do with your guilt or innocence. So even though you were never found guilty does not necessarily mean that you did not commit the offense that you were charged with.
I hope this encourages others to not simply assume they're guilty of, for example, speeding and roll over because someone w/ a badge suggests they are.
I too hope that it encourages people to exercise their rights to defend themselves IF they have a defense and NOT just because they are peevish about getting caught.
Officers aren't infallible, nor is their equipment.
I never suggested they were… Judges aren’t
“infallible” either nor are they above the law. They too make mistakes sometimes, that’s why we have an appeals court.
And don't let malcontents like Banned discourage you from exploring your right to be proven guilty. [/B]
You mean “exploring their right to be proven
‘NOT GUILTY‘”… You do know the difference, don’t you?
Furthermore, you do not have a right to be proven "not guilty". You have the right to a defense, a right to face your accuser, a right to examine evidence presented against you.... etc. But none of that guarantees you the right to be proven "not guilty" or "guilty" for that matter (depending on your understanding to those terms).
I am not
“malcontent”. I gain nothing by you losing and I lose nothing by you walking away… It makes no difference to me whatsoever.
Lastly, you shouldn’t let your bitterness and anger that you got caught overshadow your need to say thank you for the help you received; nor should you allow yourself to come back on here acting
holier than thou while trying to give the impression that you were wrongfully accused when in fact the only reason you escaped punishment was because an officer died in the line of duty and while protecting and serving thankless citizens like you!
Oh, and slow down…
