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Old 09-30-2001, 07:31 PM
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failure to update license


On September 4, I received a speeding ticket which I pre-paid and a ticket for failure to update my driver's license. This was in Virginia. The officer checked the box that said that it was a pre-payable offense and when I went to the clerk's office to pay it, they said that it was not. Now I need to go to court. What I was wondering was, what can happen to me?
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Old 09-30-2001, 07:57 PM
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Ask the court clerk since you were driving with an expired license.
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Old 10-01-2001, 12:36 AM
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I wasn't driving with an expired license. It was valid, the address wasn't changed. That's what the ticket was. Failure to update my address.
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Old 10-06-2001, 11:10 PM
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Ask the court clerk.
There is a requirement that you file a change of address within a specified time period.
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Old 10-09-2001, 02:42 PM
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Thanks for the advice, but the case was dismissed this morning. No fine or anything. The cop said that he just wanted to make sure I updated it.
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Old 10-09-2001, 05:59 PM
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I am glad to hear that you didn't receive a fine or penalty, but you should realize that what you did WAS against the law and the posts made by others were correct.

Utah Code:
"53-3-216. Change of address -- Duty of licensee to notify division within ten days -- Change of name -- Proof necessary -- Method of
giving notice by division.
(1) If a person, after applying for or receiving a license, moves from the address named in the application or in the license certificate issued to him, the person shall within ten days of moving, notify the division in a manner specified by the division of his new address and the number of any license certificate held by him.
(2) If a person requests to change the surname on the applicant's license, the division shall issue a substitute license with the new name upon
receiving an application and fee for a duplicate license and any of the following proofs of the applicant's full legal name:
(a) an original or certified copy of the applicant's marriage certificate;
(b) a certified copy of a court order under Title 42, Chapter 1, Change of Name, showing the name change;
(c) an original or certified copy of a birth certificate issued by a government agency;
(d) a certified copy of a divorce decree or annulment granted the applicant that specifies the name change requested; or
(e) a certified copy of a divorce decree that does not specify the name change requested together with:
(i) an original or certified copy of the applicant's birth certificate;
(ii) the applicant's marriage license;
(iii) a driver license record showing use of a maiden name; or
(iv) other documentation the division finds acceptable.
(3) (a) If the division is authorized or required to give any notice under this chapter or other law regulating the operation of vehicles, the notice shall, unless otherwise prescribed, be given by:
(i) personal delivery to the person to be notified; or
(ii) deposit in the United States mail with postage prepaid, addressed to the person at his address as shown by the records of the division.
(b) The giving of notice by mail is complete upon the expiration of four days after the deposit of the notice.
(c) Proof of the giving of notice in either manner may be made by the certificate of any officer or employee of the division or affidavit of any person older than 18 years of age, naming the person to whom the notice was given and specifying the time, place, and manner of giving the notice.
(4) The division may use state mailing or United States Postal Service information to:
(a) verify an address on an application or on records of the division; and
(b) correct mailing addresses in the division's records.
(5) A violation of the provisions of Subsection (1) is an infraction."

And further:
"53-3-229. Prohibited uses of license certificate -- Penalty.
(1) It is a class C misdemeanor for a person to:
(a) display, cause or permit to be displayed, or to have in possession any license certificate knowing it is fictitious or altered;
(b) lend or knowingly permit the use of a license certificate issued to him, by a person not entitled to it;
(c) display or to represent as his own a license certificate not issued to him;
(d) refuse to surrender to the division or a peace officer upon demand any license certificate issued by the division;
(e) use a false name or give a false address in any application for a license or any renewal or duplicate of the license certificate, or to knowingly make a false statement, or to knowingly conceal a material fact or otherwise commit a fraud in the application;
(f) permit any other prohibited use of a license certificate issued to him; or
(g) display a canceled, denied, revoked, suspended, or disqualified driver license certificate as a valid driver license certificate.
(2) The provisions of Subsection (1)(g) do not prohibit the use of a person's driver license certificate as a means of personal identification."
Source for the above:
[url]http://www.le.state.ut.us/~code/TITLE53/53_03.htm[/url]
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There are at least 17 lawsuits (!!) pending in various courts, including the US Supreme Court, asking if Obama is a natural born citizen (as req'd by Art II, Sec 1 of the US Constitution).

Why has he spent over $1.35M in legal fees to block disclosure... rather than spend $12 for a VALID birth cert to settle the matter? The 'certificate' he has presented doesn't qualify to get a drivers license, wouldn't allow a child to qualify for Little League, or for a real citizen to get a US passport!
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Old 10-10-2001, 11:40 AM
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Thanks for the information. If I ever move to Utah, it will be extremely helpful. However, as of now, Utah information will get me nowhere since I live in VIRGINIA.
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Old 10-10-2001, 12:45 PM
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WOW, sorry about that. I must have gotten your location confused with another post that I was replying to at the same time (I usually have a couple of windows open with different threads).

In any case, here is the VIRGINIA information:
"§ 46.2-324. Applicants and license holders to notify Department of change of address.
Whenever any person, after applying for or obtaining a driver's license shall move from the address shown in the application or on the license, he shall, within thirty days, notify the Department of his change of address.

There may be imposed upon anyone failing to comply with this section a fee of five dollars, which fee shall be used to defray the expenses incurred by the Department."

Needless to say, this appears to be a pretty harmless violation. [I bet you are REAL glad you don't live in Utah now!!!]
BTW, the entire statute regarding licensing can be found at:
[url]http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+TOC46020000003000000000000[/url]

I bet that the 'appearance' is required to show that you have in fact corrected the license to show your current address.
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There are at least 17 lawsuits (!!) pending in various courts, including the US Supreme Court, asking if Obama is a natural born citizen (as req'd by Art II, Sec 1 of the US Constitution).

Why has he spent over $1.35M in legal fees to block disclosure... rather than spend $12 for a VALID birth cert to settle the matter? The 'certificate' he has presented doesn't qualify to get a drivers license, wouldn't allow a child to qualify for Little League, or for a real citizen to get a US passport!

Last edited by JETX; 10-10-2001 at 12:48 PM.
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Old 10-10-2001, 02:24 PM
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I'm sorry. I didn't mean to sound so rude. I was just having a bad day. I really am sorry.
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