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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? OREGON
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Oregon, City of Beaverton/Tigard.
I'm 32 years old, male, I commute around 14 miles each way to drop my 2 daughters in our daycare and work 5 days a week.
I need some advice from you (friend or unknown).
Here are the facts: Waiting for a heavy traffic to move faster on a very busy road, around 8:00 am, a 5 lanes road -Murray Rd.- (2 lanes south to north, 2 lanes vice versa and one lane for "turning only)" I was driving north on Murray to later on turn left on Farmington, having perfect visibility on the road, I did crossed about 15 to 20 yards aprox. "before allowed to do so," from the left lane to the center lane (that lane only allowed for people turning) I did make sure nobody was in between me and the access to left turning lane, also made sure nobody had the "turning left" blinker on in front of me, nobody behind me was doing the same thing, nor I could cause an accident in the process of doing it, I did it very safely. I didn't do it to "overtake" other cars. I did it because some mornings that light takes FOREVER for people turning left on Farmington from Murray; you could see 30-40 cars in front of you before having access to the turning left lane is accessible to me. or any other car trying to turn left. The ratio between these lanes could be 40 cars going straight or to the right to only 1 or 2 cars turning left when traffic is heavy, not allowing drivers like me to turn left on Farmington and being traffic efficient. In some cases the lane is so long the cars get backed up to 6th St. and Murray where there's another light and cars don't move, blocking people coming from 6th into Murray. By me doing what I did, allows another car to use my space and avoid getting stock in between the crossing streets.
I realize I crossed over to the turning lane only for a few seconds, I understand I did crossed over a "solid line with a semi-solid or striped line" allowing only people turning left on the road...but that's exactly what I did, I turned left on Farmington (also HWY 10)...the police officer made me feel guilty about me crossing over it before I was "allowed to turn left"...I didn't argued with him... I've never had a ticket before...ever, so I asked him if he would give a warning only, his answer was "I don't know it yet..." he said. About ten minutes later he came back and gave a $336.00 ticket, and misplacing the number of my address on it...he decided to give me a citation for "Passing on a No-Passing zone"...once again I didn't argued with him since he already had it printed out and handed to me. I took the ticket and left to drop my two daughters to the daycare and later on to my work, I arrived ten minutes late to my office since it took him about 15 minutes to give me the citation.
Now I wondered, what made the difference for him to give me the ticket , was it because of my Hispanic name and last name -I hope that's not the case since that would be "profiling" and is ilegal; Was it that I just got the OR license 6 months ago (he probably didn't know I've being a driver for the last 15 years in other states with a clean record); perhaps I didn't argued enough and he thought I wouldn't fight it in court and I would just pay the fee and he would meet his "quota" of tickets given this year...only God knows what was on his mind.
I have being researching about it and I truly believe this ticket was excessive, if I was going to get anything would be "Misuse of the turning lane" or some other citation less severe.
I'm suppose to be in court within 2 weeks from now, I will plead Not guilty since I can't afford the ticket nor risking my insurance and my wife's insurance to go up for both cars we own - 2000 Dodge van and a 2001 Nissan sedan.
I need help from you; I need to know What to do to get out clean from this?
I understand I "made a mistake" by crossing the solid lane; but isn't a mistake of the Traffic Engineers and/or any other "planners" to solve this issue, they are not considering people/cars like me/mine turning left and OVER-WAITING to get to the access to the light to turn left...
Please advice,
Thank you.
ESV
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Oregon, City of Beaverton/Tigard.
I'm 32 years old, male, I commute around 14 miles each way to drop my 2 daughters in our daycare and work 5 days a week.
I need some advice from you (friend or unknown).
Here are the facts: Waiting for a heavy traffic to move faster on a very busy road, around 8:00 am, a 5 lanes road -Murray Rd.- (2 lanes south to north, 2 lanes vice versa and one lane for "turning only)" I was driving north on Murray to later on turn left on Farmington, having perfect visibility on the road, I did crossed about 15 to 20 yards aprox. "before allowed to do so," from the left lane to the center lane (that lane only allowed for people turning) I did make sure nobody was in between me and the access to left turning lane, also made sure nobody had the "turning left" blinker on in front of me, nobody behind me was doing the same thing, nor I could cause an accident in the process of doing it, I did it very safely. I didn't do it to "overtake" other cars. I did it because some mornings that light takes FOREVER for people turning left on Farmington from Murray; you could see 30-40 cars in front of you before having access to the turning left lane is accessible to me. or any other car trying to turn left. The ratio between these lanes could be 40 cars going straight or to the right to only 1 or 2 cars turning left when traffic is heavy, not allowing drivers like me to turn left on Farmington and being traffic efficient. In some cases the lane is so long the cars get backed up to 6th St. and Murray where there's another light and cars don't move, blocking people coming from 6th into Murray. By me doing what I did, allows another car to use my space and avoid getting stock in between the crossing streets.
I realize I crossed over to the turning lane only for a few seconds, I understand I did crossed over a "solid line with a semi-solid or striped line" allowing only people turning left on the road...but that's exactly what I did, I turned left on Farmington (also HWY 10)...the police officer made me feel guilty about me crossing over it before I was "allowed to turn left"...I didn't argued with him... I've never had a ticket before...ever, so I asked him if he would give a warning only, his answer was "I don't know it yet..." he said. About ten minutes later he came back and gave a $336.00 ticket, and misplacing the number of my address on it...he decided to give me a citation for "Passing on a No-Passing zone"...once again I didn't argued with him since he already had it printed out and handed to me. I took the ticket and left to drop my two daughters to the daycare and later on to my work, I arrived ten minutes late to my office since it took him about 15 minutes to give me the citation.
Now I wondered, what made the difference for him to give me the ticket , was it because of my Hispanic name and last name -I hope that's not the case since that would be "profiling" and is ilegal; Was it that I just got the OR license 6 months ago (he probably didn't know I've being a driver for the last 15 years in other states with a clean record); perhaps I didn't argued enough and he thought I wouldn't fight it in court and I would just pay the fee and he would meet his "quota" of tickets given this year...only God knows what was on his mind.
I have being researching about it and I truly believe this ticket was excessive, if I was going to get anything would be "Misuse of the turning lane" or some other citation less severe.
I'm suppose to be in court within 2 weeks from now, I will plead Not guilty since I can't afford the ticket nor risking my insurance and my wife's insurance to go up for both cars we own - 2000 Dodge van and a 2001 Nissan sedan.
I need help from you; I need to know What to do to get out clean from this?
I understand I "made a mistake" by crossing the solid lane; but isn't a mistake of the Traffic Engineers and/or any other "planners" to solve this issue, they are not considering people/cars like me/mine turning left and OVER-WAITING to get to the access to the light to turn left...
Please advice,
Thank you.
ESV
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