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Old 04-26-2007, 02:37 AM
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What is the name of your state? Illinois

I had a ticket about 2-3 months ago for speeding and they placed me on court supervision,
today i was driving on a four lane road and i was in the left lane and there was a school bus in the right lane, we just got done going over the rail road tracks so i figured that they still had the yellow flashing lights on because we just went over the tracks, well i look down and turn up the radio and i look up and the stop sign on the bus is out, i was going the speed limit which is 30mph, (forgot to mention this is a VERY conjested area) and i had no time to slow down and i went right through the stop sign, and i cop passed me right when this happened, i didnt want to slam on my brakes and cause a huge crash. so to make a long story short i got the ticket for illegal passing of school bus. i called my lawyer immediatly to ask him what to do, so he is going to ask for the ticket to be dropped to a regular speeding ticket. what are the chances of this happening???? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE HELPFUL! thanks
   
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Ummmmmm, how about being patient?
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What is the name of your state? Illinois

I had a ticket about 2-3 months ago for speeding and they placed me on court supervision,
today i was driving on a four lane road and i was in the left lane and there was a school bus in the right lane, we just got done going over the rail road tracks so i figured that they still had the yellow flashing lights on because we just went over the tracks, well i look down and turn up the radio and i look up and the stop sign on the bus is out, i was going the speed limit which is 30mph, (forgot to mention this is a VERY conjested area) and i had no time to slow down and i went right through the stop sign, and i cop passed me right when this happened, i didnt want to slam on my brakes and cause a huge crash. so to make a long story short i got the ticket for illegal passing of school bus. i called my lawyer immediatly to ask him what to do, so he is going to ask for the ticket to be dropped to a regular speeding ticket. what are the chances of this happening???? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE HELPFUL! thanks
Most states consider passing a stopped school bus to be a very serious "ticket". If the officer lowers the ticket to "speeding", you're still in trouble; aren't you?

Maybe a few months without a license would give you time to decide if you can abide by traffic laws and slow your speed, focus on driving conditions instead of music, and touch up on spelling, punctuation, and capitalization.

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Most states consider passing a stopped school bus to be a very serious "ticket". If the officer lowers the ticket to "speeding", you're still in trouble; aren't you?

Maybe a few months without a license would give you time to decide if you can abide by traffic laws and slow your speed, focus on driving conditions instead of music, and touch up on spelling, punctuation, and capitalization.

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well number one im not some crazy person speeding through the streets and not carring about peoples lives or obeying the law, and how does my spelling have anything to do with how i drive? all im looking for in here is some insight on this....
   
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I don't know, but I think you'll still be in trouble on your probation for the earlier charge. You were warned to drive carefully and lawfully, but you chose to not do so. Nothing you've said mitigates what you did. What if a child had been crossing going to and from that bus?
   
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i had no time to slow down and i went right through the stop sign, and i cop passed me right when this happened, i didnt want to slam on my brakes and cause a huge crash.
How many other vehicles passed the school bus? If the answer was none, you could have stopped without causing an accident.
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How many other vehicles passed the school bus? If the answer was none, you could have stopped without causing an accident.
wow i didnt know all of you were amazing drivers and driving instrustors, im sure none of you made a mistake ever when driving, next time i get in my car, i will try to be as perfect as you and never make a mistake, im not asking how i could of changed the situation that happened, IM ASKING IF ANY ONE HAD A SIMILIAR SITUATION and if anyone has any insight on this, so if you cant answer what im looking for, dont type.
   
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How many other vehicles passed the school bus? If the answer was none, you could have stopped without causing an accident.
It doesn't matter how many cars passed the bus. He even admits to having seen the yellow warning flashers (which the drivers may deploy before putting on the red flashers/stop signs, but that's not even required by code that they do so).
   
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wow i didnt know all of you were amazing drivers and driving instrustors, im sure none of you made a mistake ever when driving, next time i get in my car, i will try to be as perfect as you and never make a mistake, im not asking how i could of changed the situation that happened, IM ASKING IF ANY ONE HAD A SIMILIAR SITUATION and if anyone has any insight on this, so if you cant answer what im looking for, dont type.
Having a lawyer who knows how to beg for leniency is a great first step. The flashing light deal is a unusual circumstance that brings reasonable doubt into question - the bus driver is required to give sufficient notice to allow stopping sight distance prior to displaying a legally enforceable stop bar. Since he was merging the railroad corssing (caution) and the warning for the stop bar into one - it brings into question whether sufficent notice was given.
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One other thing - after coming to a complete stop at the railroad tracks and after passing the tracks and moving again did the school bus then display the amber lights for a full 100 ft before coming to a complete stop and then raising the stop bar?
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No one said that people can't make mistakes. That'd be ridiculous. However, you, OP, KEEP making them. You weren't on court supervision for a speeding ticket. It was either an accumulation of tickets, OR a really serious violation, or both.
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No one said that people can't make mistakes. That'd be ridiculous. However, you, OP, KEEP making them. You weren't on court supervision for a speeding ticket. It was either an accumulation of tickets, OR a really serious violation, or both.
I agree... Court Supervision is not usually entered into for a single ticket, unless the offense was so egregious (such as 100 in a 35) that the court thought you needed to be supervised.


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You are in trouble, need to slow down ( I am not a perfect driver), and should heed the advice of your lawyer.
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wow i didnt know all of you were amazing drivers and driving instrustors, im sure none of you made a mistake ever when driving, next time i get in my car, i will try to be as perfect as you and never make a mistake, im not asking how i could of changed the situation that happened, IM ASKING IF ANY ONE HAD A SIMILIAR SITUATION and if anyone has any insight on this, so if you cant answer what im looking for, dont type.
My question had nothing to do with being perfect. It centered around common sense. Common sense says you drive a little more carefully and pay attention to your surroundings when driving around school buses. Next time there might by a child stepping into your lane of traffic while you are not paying attention and changing your radio station.
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