=tranquility;2312293]There is an inherent conflict of interest when the people giving the tickets get paid by the revenue from the tickets. Especially when the vast majority of the income is earned by nothing more than the word of the person giving the ticket.
sure there is but it is what it is. It just means society must police the police regarding this.
That's why "quotas" are illegal people.
I love it when people say this. It's a great sentiment but the fact that a specific quota may be illegal, that does not mean quotas are non-existent. They simply survive in a less obvious manner.
The complexity of our society and its funding mechanisims attenuate the taint. Maybe enough to make things fair. But, that Jim_Bo points out the truth that the police gain benefit from ticket income hardly makes him a fool.
Not sure where anybody said he was a fool for claiming such. Everybody was addressing his claim of who got the revenue and how.
It might not make the point he's trying to make, but the truth is not foolish.
the fact he was playing volleyball from both sides of the fence is what made him look bad. Additionally, what he was getting so much flack about wasn't that somebody received revenue from the tickets but his claim that, at one point, the state received the money and then he attempted to change his intent by claiming a different definition of "state"
Then, when I stated that RG's link supported the fact he was wrong, he started tossing out insults.
Carl and I had a long debate on this years ago and I pointed out numerous studies and reports to point out the truth of the statement that the government makes a profit on giving tickets. I think the final result from him was a grudging maybe, but not in his city
I did not see the discussion so I will take your word on it. I have a hard time seeing huge profits from the tickets though. Courts, including all the personnel and buildings and all involved costs, are not cheap.
The problem I have with jimbos premise is;
why is an officer writing a ticket for a legit situation wrong? If the drivers would not break the law, they don't get tickets. He never spoke to improperly given tickets, just tickets. I accept there are improperly given tickets but I would like to think, that for the most part, the tickets issued are legit.
As such, a person has control as to whether they are subjected to a ticket and subsequently help support whatever community the ticket it written by.
what is the problem with that?