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Missouri School Zones

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ladyteara

Junior Member
Small town Missouri

I know that there has been something in legislature recently requiring school zones to be posted as such in order for fines to be increased and that it has been a big issue.

However, I was pulled over last month for speeding... at a speed I didn't believe physically possible. When I plead not guilty, the DA didn't look up my record or offer a plea or anything. simply set it for trial (which I thought is what I was attending). He also ammended the ticket to say I was in a school zone. One that has no signs or anything marking it as a school zone. The fines more than doubled.

Is this legitimate? Can I fight it?
 


BelizeBreeze

Senior Member
ladyteara said:
Small town Missouri

I know that there has been something in legislature recently requiring school zones to be posted as such in order for fines to be increased and that it has been a big issue.

However, I was pulled over last month for speeding... at a speed I didn't believe physically possible. When I plead not guilty, the DA didn't look up my record or offer a plea or anything. simply set it for trial (which I thought is what I was attending). He also ammended the ticket to say I was in a school zone. One that has no signs or anything marking it as a school zone. The fines more than doubled.

Is this legitimate? Can I fight it?
yes and yes
 

seniorjudge

Senior Member
ladyteara said:
Small town Missouri

I know that there has been something in legislature recently requiring school zones to be posted as such in order for fines to be increased and that it has been a big issue.

However, I was pulled over last month for speeding... at a speed I didn't believe physically possible. When I plead not guilty, the DA didn't look up my record or offer a plea or anything. simply set it for trial (which I thought is what I was attending). He also ammended the ticket to say I was in a school zone. One that has no signs or anything marking it as a school zone. The fines more than doubled.

Is this legitimate? Can I fight it?
Yes, this is entirely legitimate. I will agree with you, however, that school zones are very poorly marked all over the state of Missouri. Bring pictures to show the judge.

That, however, will NOT get you off.

Talk to the prosecutor and ask if you can plead to a NON-moving violation. You don't want this ticket on your record.



Standard answer

Here are some hints on appearing in court:

Dress professionally in clean clothes.

Do not wear message shirts.

Don't chew gum, smoke, or eat. (Smokers...pot or tobacco...literally stink. Remember that before you head for court.)

Bathe and wash your hair.

Do not bring small children or your friends.

Go to court beforehand some day before you actually have to go to watch how things go.

Speak politely and deferentially. If you argue or dispute something, do it professionally and without emotion.

Ask the court clerk who you talk to about a diversion (meaning you want to plead to a different, lesser charge), if applicable in your situation. Ask about traffic school and that the ticket not go on your record, if applicable. Ask also about getting a hardship driving permit, if applicable. Ask about drug court, if applicable.

From marbol:

“Judge...

You forgot the one thing that I've seen that seems to frizz up most judges these days:

If you have a cell phone, make DAMN SURE that it doesn't make ANY noise in the courtroom. This means when you are talking to the judge AND when you are simply sitting in the court room.

If you have a ‘vibrate’ position on your cell phone, MAKE sure the judge DOESN'T EVEN HEAR IT VIBRATE!

Turn it off or put it in silent mode where it flashes a LED if it rings. AND DON'T even DREAM about answering it if it rings.”

(Better yet, don’t carry your cell phone into the courtroom.)”


Here are five stories that criminal court judges hear the most (and I suggest you do not use them or variations of them):

1. I’ve been saved! (This is not religion specific; folks from all kinds of religious backgrounds use this one.)

2. My girlfriend/mother/sister/daughter/wife/ex-wife/niece/grandma/grand-daughter is pregnant/sick/dying/dead/crippled/crazy and needs my help.

3. I’ve got a job in [name a state five hundred miles away].

4. This is the first time I ever did this. (This conflicts with number 5 below, but that hasn’t stopped some defendants from using both.)

5. You’ve got the wrong guy. (A variation of this one is the phantom defendant story: “It wasn’t me driving, it was a hitchhiker I picked up. He wrecked the car, drug me behind the wheel then took off.” Or, another variation: “I was forced into it by a bad guy!”)

https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?p=854687#post854687

Public defender’s advice

http://newyork.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/70300494.html


Other people may give you other advice; stand by.
 

BelizeBreeze

Senior Member
The poster is mistaken.

There is a new bill circulating about speeding in Construction Zones, not school zones. The statute requires an added $35 assessment in excess of the speeding fine as it always has.
 

sukharev

Member
ladyteara said:
Small town Missouri

I know that there has been something in legislature recently requiring school zones to be posted as such in order for fines to be increased and that it has been a big issue.

However, I was pulled over last month for speeding... at a speed I didn't believe physically possible. When I plead not guilty, the DA didn't look up my record or offer a plea or anything. simply set it for trial (which I thought is what I was attending). He also ammended the ticket to say I was in a school zone. One that has no signs or anything marking it as a school zone. The fines more than doubled.

Is this legitimate? Can I fight it?
Why did he amend the ticket? Did the officer say you were in school zone? Was there a school and did the hours match school zone hours? What was the speed?
 

lwpat

Senior Member
Sounds like you are being punished for exercising your right to a trial. Unfortunately, this is not unusual for traffic offenses.
 

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