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Old 09-13-2004, 08:22 PM
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No seat belt ticket


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I pulled up to reverse into a metered parking space in a rented Escalade SUV I took my seat belt so I could turn around to back up as I was backing up a police bike pulled in behind me in the metered space.

The police man came over and said your not wearing a seat belt and gave me a ticket.

Question is can I remove my seat belt while trying to reverse and park a big vehicle?
   
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Old 09-13-2004, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by south
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I pulled up to reverse into a metered parking space in a rented Escalade SUV I took my seat belt so I could turn around to back up as I was backing up a police bike pulled in behind me in the metered space.

The police man came over and said your not wearing a seat belt and gave me a ticket.

Question is can I remove my seat belt while trying to reverse and park a big vehicle?
**A: yes, you can but such action is in violation of the seat belt law, therefore you got a ticket.
   
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Old 09-13-2004, 08:42 PM
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Therefore


Would it be redundant to say to a judge I took it off to reverse and the policeman pulled into the parking spot behind me and gave me a ticket?

Would I still be fined?

If the policeman does not turn up for court do I still get fined?
   
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Old 09-13-2004, 09:08 PM
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My response:

The judge will know, like the rest of us know, that your "excuse" is a load of bullsh!t. Seatbelts are designed to "move" with you; i.e., You don't need to remove it to back up!

The truth is, and you know it, is that you were never wearing the belt at all.

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Old 09-14-2004, 12:12 AM
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Wow thats quite a chip you have


I took the seat belt of to back a large rented high in the air Escalade SUV up in Westwood.

If you took the time to read; my question was can you remove a seat belt to reverse a vehicle, I quite clearly stated I was not wearing the seat belt when reversing.
   
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Old 09-14-2004, 05:34 AM
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Wow! That's quite a bit of bullsh!t you're trying to shovel.


[quote=south]

I took the seat belt of to back a large rented high in the air Escalade SUV up in Westwood.

MY RESPONSE: Oh, this happened in Westwood! Now I understand. I was thinking that this happened in Beverly Hills. So, you're correct - - people who drive big vehicles in Westwood are required to remove their seatbelts when backing up. Why didn't you say so the first time?



If you took the time to read; my question was can you remove a seat belt to reverse a vehicle, I quite clearly stated I was not wearing the seat belt when reversing.

MY RESPONSE: And the answer is the same - - "No". Also, it's absolutely unnessessary to "remove a seat belt to reverse a vehicle." And I said, "Seatbelts are designed to "move" with you; i.e., You don't need to remove it to back up!"

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Old 09-14-2004, 05:42 AM
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I took the seat belt of to back a large rented high in the air Escalade SUV up in Westwood. (What you are trying to tell us is that you were not fimilar with or competent to operate this vehicle or are you bragging about your luxurgy rental and the neighborhood where you parked, like that makes you somehting special? Were you afraid of wrinkling your clothes?)

If you took the time to read; my question was can you remove a seat belt to reverse a vehicle, I quite clearly stated I was not wearing the seat belt when reversing.
You were already told you cannot take your seatbelt off to park your vehicle. That is what the policeman gave you the ticket for, we even have a vehicle code with a specific section devoted to this offense.

No that was not the question IAAL was responding to, after receiving your answer which you didn't like, you then asked the following redundent question:
"Would it be redundant to say to a judge I took it off to reverse and the policeman pulled into the parking spot behind me and gave me a ticket?"
(BTW yes it would be redundent there as it was here, where the police parked has nothing to do with your ticket, they usually park behind you so they can se the license plate.)
'Would I still be fined?" (Beause the police parked behind you? Are you competent at all?)
"If the policeman does not turn up for court do I still get fined?"
(More redundent questions, of course you will get fined you were not wearing your seatbelt and got caught)

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE: "The judge will know, like the rest of us know, that your "excuse" is a load of bullsh!t. Seatbelts are designed to "move" with you; i.e., You don't need to remove it to back up!
The truth is, and you know it, is that you were never wearing the belt at all."

You have no excuse, being redundent doesn't prove anything, that is why he said, "The judge will know, like the rest of us know, that your "excuse" is a load of bullsh!t" let me say it again so you will understand, "The judge will know, like the rest of us know, that your "excuse" is a load of bullsh!t"

Pay your fine and in the future, always wear your seatbelt while you are operating your vehicle.
   
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Old 09-14-2004, 07:53 AM
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The question was are you allowed to remove a seat belt to reverse and park a vehicle.

The answer I know now is NO. Why are you turning a simple question into a big deal. Its a perfectly legitimate question regarding driving law.

At no point did I say I had my seat belt on.
At no point did I make an excuse.
At no point did I say I was looking fo an excuse.

I made it perfectly clear I had no seat belt on and made no attempt to say I had it on.

I simply asked is it okay to remove a seat belt when reversing a vehicle.

I said westwood because the system asks for location of incident do not take it personaly.

I said the type of vehicle to show that it was not an easy vehicle to reverse into a gap.

As it happens there are many reasons why someone can take their seat belt of and not wear it. Check DMV

And P.S Stating I did not like the answer is a ridiculous statement, I am looking for the answer yes or no is what I am looking for I do not take it personaly I appreciate the help and answer to my question.

Stating being redundant means I am asking would it be a waste of time saying to a judge I was parking which is a YES because you cannot remove seat belt to reverse a vehicle.

Seat belt tickets do not effect the license so its not a big deal just an inquirey. thanks anyway

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Old 09-14-2004, 08:19 AM
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Old 09-14-2004, 08:20 AM
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As it happens there are many reasons why someone can take their seat belt of and not wear it. Check DMV

My response:

No, you check the Vehicle Code, and show me one that meets your fact pattern in your original post that would allow you to take your seat belt off while backing up in a passenger vehicle.

IAAL
   
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