NY ticket, live in FL :(

[Jasmine29]

What is the name of your state?NY
I was driving on the throughway this weekend and was pulled over for speeding Long story short, I convinced the trooper to reduce the ticket to something else and he came back with "failure to obey traffic control" which is violation #1110, sub a.

I drive a company car for work and the trooper told me that this was a non-moving violation and that it would not hit my license with points but it was just a fine. I would like some reassurance that this is true, because it doesn't seem right. He told me I could answer it by mail and plead innocent or guilty. I asked him what the fine was and he said he didn't know but they would get back to me by mail and let me know.

Obviously, beating this ticket is my choice if possible and I would be willing to hire an attorney to do it. Of course, this ticket was issued in the sticks of upstate NY, so I wouldn't even know how to go about it. If it's a $50-$100 fine, no points, no hassles, then I would just pay it.

Anyone have any ideas on this? Thanks.

[JETX]

Originally Posted by Jasmine29

Anyone have any ideas on this?

Yep, call the court and ask them......

[lwpat]

It depends on what the NY court does with the ticket. If they report it to the NY DMV and the NY DMV reports it to Florida then it will probably show as a three point ticket. Call the clerk of court and ask.

"All other moving violations (including parking on highway outside the limits of municipalities) 3 "

[Jasmine29]

Thanks. I'll call the clerk today and see what they say.

I wonder though if the ticket would stick considering I did not fail to obey a "traffic control".....unless speeding counts for that

[nb367300]

Hey Jasmine:
I got ticketted at Syracuse for going 80 in a 65 zone (4 pts). I have been offered a change to Sec. 1102 Failure to Comply (2 pts). Still debating what to do. I'm in MD and believe that points don't transfer, BUT there will be a note on my recoprd. Check with your DMV.

[Curt581]

It never ceases to amaze me when someone begs for a reduction from an officer on the side of the road, then when they get a BREAK, they turn around and fight the reduced ticket.

Talk about ungrateful. I think the officer should ask the prosecutor to move to dismiss, then reissue the original speeding violation.

THIS is the reason I will never give anyone another break. I'm writing the ticket for what I see.

Don't agree with it? Take it to Court.

[Jasmine29]

Originally Posted by Curt581

It never ceases to amaze me when someone begs for a reduction from an officer on the side of the road, then when they get a BREAK, they turn around and fight the reduced ticket.

Talk about ungrateful. I think the officer should ask the prosecutor to move to dismiss, then reissue the original speeding violation.

THIS is the reason I will never give anyone another break. I'm writing the ticket for what I see.

Don't agree with it? Take it to Court.

This is a business decision. It's not personal. If I am kind to you in my place of business and you return and ask for another favor I think, "Wow. This is someone who needs my help."...not "Screw them. I am never doing anyone any favors ever again". But then again, your attitude doesn't surprise me given your chosen vocation.

[Jasmine29]

Originally Posted by nb367300

Hey Jasmine:
I got ticketted at Syracuse for going 80 in a 65 zone (4 pts). I have been offered a change to Sec. 1102 Failure to Comply (2 pts). Still debating what to do. I'm in MD and believe that points don't transfer, BUT there will be a note on my recoprd. Check with your DMV.

Hi NB,

Call the clerk as I just did and find out whether it's considered a non-moving violation or not and how much the fine will be.

I have decided to pay the fine and swallow the points as it seems like my best option. In Syracuse you may have more options. Good luck

[Curt581]

Originally Posted by Jasmine29

This is a business decision. It's not personal. If I am kind to you in my place of business and you return and ask for another favor I think, "Wow. This is someone who needs my help."...not "Screw them. I am never doing anyone any favors ever again".

Totally different situation. You're talking about a business that wants customers to return.

The police would rather have NO repeat customers. We hope people would learn their lesson after the first encounter. Our goal is voluntary compliance.

Yeah... like that'll actually happen.

But then again, your attitude doesn't surprise me given your chosen vocation.

Hey... I'll have you know my attitude is well and truly EARNED.

I can't tell you how many sob stories I fell for in the past, and given breaks or warnings instead of well deserved citations... only to have it come back and bite me on the butt.

Never again.

The one that you give a warning to, will be the one who'll complain the loudest that they were stopped at all.

Or the civilian version: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished.

[Jasmine29]

Who are you kidding curt? You guys give out speeding tickets to fill the city coffers first and foremost. Repeat customers are your life-blood. If you were more than a beat cop, you might actually be able to appreciate the effect of the cash flow from speeding tickets on the city budget. They tell you there is no quota??? LOL


Furthermore, you have no idea what I do so you cannot say that I do or do not want the people I help to return. I will say, however, I do my job with a smile on my face and kindness in my heart, to the best of my ability. I do not hide behind billboards where the speed limit rapidly drops 20 mph and lay in wait for unsuspecting little old ladies. Oh, I know...you have to keep the roads safe. It's your duty. You are supposed to protect and serve.

But hey, I really like your quote about your ex wife. Pretty much sums you up now, doesn't it?

[Curt581]

Originally Posted by Jasmine29

Who are you kidding curt? You guys give out speeding tickets to fill the city coffers first and foremost. Repeat customers are your life-blood. If you were more than a beat cop, you might actually be able to appreciate the effect of the cash flow from speeding tickets on the city budget. They tell you there is no quota??? LOL

You honestly have no clue what you're talking about.

But okay... As I've said to other posters, the courts are limited in the methods used to punish offenders

We can issue monetary fines. You don't like that one, since you seem to claim all we do is revenue generation.

We can sanction their driver's licenses.

We can Jail them.

Since you don't want to pay a fine, which of the other two would you prefer?

Furthermore, you have no idea what I do so you cannot say that I do or do not want the people I help to return. I will say, however, I do my job with a smile on my face and kindness in my heart, to the best of my ability.

I said or implied no such thing. You're absolutely correct. I don't know what you do, or how you do it. Nor do I particularly care.

I do not hide behind billboards where the speed limit rapidly drops 20 mph and lay in wait for unsuspecting little old ladies. Oh, I know...you have to keep the roads safe. It's your duty. You are supposed to protect and serve.

You really crack me up.

But hey, I really like your quote about your ex wife. Pretty much sums you up now, doesn't it?

Ohfercrissakes... it's a joke.

Lighten up. You'll live longer.

[Jasmine29]

Originally Posted by Curt581

Totally different situation. You're talking about a business that wants customers to return.

The police would rather have NO repeat customers. We hope people would learn their lesson after the first encounter. Our goal is voluntary compliance.

Actually curt, you did imply that the nature of my business is different than yours, so please don't contradict yourself.

Originally Posted by Curt581

Since you don't want to pay a fine, which of the other two would you prefer?

Read above Einstein. I said I would pay the fine in two of my posts, including the original.

I DID have a laugh over your siggy line. It's quite appropriate...or as us civilians say, "Many a truth is said in jest." I am sure your ex is a lot happier too.

[qcxlvr1]

A member of the New York State Division of State Police told you that an 1110(a) was not a moving violation? I guess the academy has gotten soft on VTL training. It sure is a moving violation and carries two points.

As is the State Trooper special, especially since it was "in the sticks" as you say, if you challenge it, he will be there as the prosecutor and promptly amend the ticket to the original offense.