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Red light cam ticket - wrong subsection???

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Pugilist

Member
What is the name of your state?CA

The police used 21453(a) on a red light cam ticket, where it was a rolling right turn against a round red light (no right turn arrow there). Shouldn't it be (b), not (a)?

Pug
 


CdwJava

Senior Member
Pugilist said:
What is the name of your state?CA

The police used 21453(a) on a red light cam ticket, where it was a rolling right turn against a round red light (no right turn arrow there). Shouldn't it be (b), not (a)?

Pug
CVC 21453(a) requires a stop at the steady red and describes where the stop must be made:

21453. (a) A driver facing a steady circular red signal alone shall
stop at a marked limit line, but if none, before entering the
crosswalk on the near side of the intersection or, if none, then
before entering the intersection, and shall remain stopped until an
indication to proceed is shown, except as provided in subdivision
(b).


The '(b)' subsection is what authorizes a right turn on a steady red and the conditions under which the turn can be made:

21453. (b) Except when a sign is in place prohibiting a turn, a driver,
after stopping as required by subdivision (a), facing a steady
circular red signal, may turn right, or turn left from a one-way
street onto a one-way street. A driver making that turn shall yield
the right-of-way to pedestrians lawfully within an adjacent crosswalk
and to any vehicle that has approached or is approaching so closely
as to constitute an immediate hazard to the driver, and shall
continue to yield the right-of-way to that vehicle until the driver
can proceed with reasonable safety.


Even if turning right, the steady red light still requires a stop - hence the '(a)' section applies.

- Carl
 

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