jarrodsd80
Junior Member
What is the name of your state? CA
Ok, Long story short as possible: I am fighting this citation mainly on principle, but I do have some legitimate legal routes (it appears to me).
I received a red light camera ticket for a right turn, which (after reviewing video) shows that I did come to a very brief stop (passed the limit line) before turning.
If you could please review the video by going here: https://www.photonotice.com/login.asp
and entering the following: Citation # w14140A, License plate #: 6n32130, and City code: Poway
I've read through the advice on these websites:
http://highwayrobbery.net/redlightcamsticket.htm#Handle
http://www.helpigotaticket.com/stra/redlight.html
I had mailed on my behalf this prepared Discovery Request to the San Diego DA's office
http://www.helpigotaticket.com/forms/disc_rlc.doc
FYI: I was issued the ticket by the city of Poway Sheriff's department, so I'm not sure who exactly is prosecuting me? In the discovery request form above I entered the city of "Poway" on line 3 of page 2, but I did mail it to the San Diego DA.
I went in for "walk in" arraignment today and tried to get the stubborn judge to look at my discovery request copy, but she said, quote: "They don't have to respond to the discovery until you plead not guilty." This is clearly wrong according to this:
Is It Ever Too Early to Ask for Discovery?
Some authorities have been telling traffic ticket defendants that they cannot request discovery until they have been arraigned and have entered their plea. Baloney!
Since the laws regulating the Discovery process (Penal Code Section 1054) do not tell us how early we may request discovery, we have looked to other sources:
1. The very authoritative California Criminal Defense Practice, by Matthew Bender (available at every law library), says:
"Neither Penal Code Section 1054.5(b) nor Section 1054.7, nor any other provision within Sections 1054 through 1054.7 specifies when informal discovery may first be requested, nor do any of these provisions prohibit the parties from requesting informal discovery at the time of arrest, or at the time of the filing of a criminal complaint, or at the time an indictment is filed, well before any arraignment or entry of plea has taken place." (Bender, Section 70.09[1] )
She went on to say that she could not dismiss the case at arraignment, at which time I read to her (because she refused to read it) CA penal code 1385(a) which states that she CAN dismiss the case.
So now I have a court date of 4/25/08 and I don't know what approach to take. I ordered an audio copy of the arraignment, in case that would be of some benefit to me.
The fact that I did in fact momentarily stop at the light (albeit over the limit line) is one approach I was thinking of, but now I have this botched up arraignment recording, and then this generalized red light camera ticket defense from the net which claims to be pretty strong: http://www.helpigotaticket.com/stra/redlight.html
If you have any questions for me please email me at [email protected]
I have to win this for all those people being targeted by these cameras for right turn violations in order to make a quick $455 (half to the city and half to the private company that operates these unconstitutional, lazy cop ticket generating, P's. O.S.
Thanks, and it doesn't matter if you are a lawyer or not...I will gladly pay you for an organized game-plan. Like I said...it is a matter of principle to me.
Jarrod
Ok, Long story short as possible: I am fighting this citation mainly on principle, but I do have some legitimate legal routes (it appears to me).
I received a red light camera ticket for a right turn, which (after reviewing video) shows that I did come to a very brief stop (passed the limit line) before turning.
If you could please review the video by going here: https://www.photonotice.com/login.asp
and entering the following: Citation # w14140A, License plate #: 6n32130, and City code: Poway
I've read through the advice on these websites:
http://highwayrobbery.net/redlightcamsticket.htm#Handle
http://www.helpigotaticket.com/stra/redlight.html
I had mailed on my behalf this prepared Discovery Request to the San Diego DA's office
http://www.helpigotaticket.com/forms/disc_rlc.doc
FYI: I was issued the ticket by the city of Poway Sheriff's department, so I'm not sure who exactly is prosecuting me? In the discovery request form above I entered the city of "Poway" on line 3 of page 2, but I did mail it to the San Diego DA.
I went in for "walk in" arraignment today and tried to get the stubborn judge to look at my discovery request copy, but she said, quote: "They don't have to respond to the discovery until you plead not guilty." This is clearly wrong according to this:
Is It Ever Too Early to Ask for Discovery?
Some authorities have been telling traffic ticket defendants that they cannot request discovery until they have been arraigned and have entered their plea. Baloney!
Since the laws regulating the Discovery process (Penal Code Section 1054) do not tell us how early we may request discovery, we have looked to other sources:
1. The very authoritative California Criminal Defense Practice, by Matthew Bender (available at every law library), says:
"Neither Penal Code Section 1054.5(b) nor Section 1054.7, nor any other provision within Sections 1054 through 1054.7 specifies when informal discovery may first be requested, nor do any of these provisions prohibit the parties from requesting informal discovery at the time of arrest, or at the time of the filing of a criminal complaint, or at the time an indictment is filed, well before any arraignment or entry of plea has taken place." (Bender, Section 70.09[1] )
She went on to say that she could not dismiss the case at arraignment, at which time I read to her (because she refused to read it) CA penal code 1385(a) which states that she CAN dismiss the case.
So now I have a court date of 4/25/08 and I don't know what approach to take. I ordered an audio copy of the arraignment, in case that would be of some benefit to me.
The fact that I did in fact momentarily stop at the light (albeit over the limit line) is one approach I was thinking of, but now I have this botched up arraignment recording, and then this generalized red light camera ticket defense from the net which claims to be pretty strong: http://www.helpigotaticket.com/stra/redlight.html
If you have any questions for me please email me at [email protected]
I have to win this for all those people being targeted by these cameras for right turn violations in order to make a quick $455 (half to the city and half to the private company that operates these unconstitutional, lazy cop ticket generating, P's. O.S.
Thanks, and it doesn't matter if you are a lawyer or not...I will gladly pay you for an organized game-plan. Like I said...it is a matter of principle to me.
Jarrod