Speeding -90 on 65 - PENNSYLVANIA - HELP

[yvk]

Hi,
I was ticketed for driving 90 in 65 limit area in PENNSYLVANIA state. I do not belong to that state. I am from WEST VIRGINIA.

1. Would the points incurred here in PA be carried to WV record?

2. Also, i noticed an error in the citation: The total was wrong. (Fine: 82.50+ EMS: 10 + CAT: 10 + Costs: 31.50 + J.c.P./A.T.J : 10) The total adds up to 144. But the officer has written 174 in the total due section. To whose notice should i bring this to??

3. This is my very first offence. Would it be wise to plead "not guilty"? If i did plead "Not guilty" what are any possible defences. I know ethically that i should plead "guilty" but i am still a stuent and cant really afford.

I would areally appreciate any advice and help
Thanks

[Robbie0723]

Check with you local DMV to find out the impact of a conviction being reported back.

Never plead guilty, your objective at this point should be to minimize the insurance impact which is likely to be major if convicted of 25 over. The state insurance commissions block base rate increases so the insurance companies make up the difference on people like you.

An experienced lawyer can almost always save you significant money in the long run.

[rch105]

1. West Virginia is a member of the Driver's License Compact and the Non-Resident Violator's Compact...PA will report your violation to WV.

2. Sec. 3362(a)(3) as follows

Fine for 90 in 65: $82.50
CAT: $40.00
EMS $10.00
Costs $31.50
JCP $10.00
_______
$174.00

3. My suggestion to you is that you slow down before you kill/injure yourself or some other innocent person, but if you really feel you are not guilty plead that way. You didn't mention the mode used for establishing your speed. Was it radar (PA State Police only), ROBIC, VASCAR, Speedometer clocking, ESP, what??? Perhaps by contacting the officer you might tell him you'd plea to 3111 - $106.50 and no points, a 25 mph over gets you 4 points!

[speed899]

The points in PA will never make it to your state. PA and NJ are tied together and some other states are also tied together but when you are down there and you are travelling and get a ticket then you will never see the points reach your state.

[pacop21]

Good lookin out rch105. I saw that the CAT wasnt right.
It's up to some judges. Technically, you shouldn't be able to change the statute. But, you could plea to 5 over and that will get you out of the points. Just talk to the Trooper/Officer before you go in front of thr judge.
Never try to take the blame away from yourself. In other words, accuse the officer of scewing up. This usually had a bad reaction, especially when your asking for leniancy.
Be apologetic and explain how you drive a lot for a living and how much this could effect you.

[mdljhu]

Originally Posted by speed899

The points in PA will never make it to your state. PA and NJ are tied together and some other states are also tied together but when you are down there and you are travelling and get a ticket then you will never see the points reach your state.

Where did you get that from??
NJ assesses 2 points for every out of state violation that is reported.
PA, on the other hand, is one of the few states that does not assess points for non-serious out of state offenses.

Here's the paragraph directly from the WV DMV book:
Driving in Other States
West Virginia is a member of the Driver's License Compact. Traffic violations you receive in other states will become part of your West Virginia driving record and, if warranted, points will be assessed. If you are convicted in other states and the offense is grounds for suspension or revocation, your West Virginia driver's license may be suspended or revoked. Other states may also restrict, suspend or revoke your privilege to drive a motor vehicle in those states.

West Virginia is also a member of the Non-Resident Violator Compact. This allows drivers to accept traffic citations for certain violations and continue on their way, regardless of whether the driver resides in that jurisdiction. Each member state agrees to suspend the driver's license of its own citizens
who fail to comply with the terms of the traffic violation committed in another state.

WV Point System
Speeding 15 m.p.h. or more above the speed limit - 5 pts.

[sukharev]

Originally Posted by speed899

The points in PA will never make it to your state. PA and NJ are tied together and some other states are also tied together but when you are down there and you are travelling and get a ticket then you will never see the points reach your state.

You are obviously trying to help, but you need to select appropriate audience that can benefit from your advice. What you experienced in one state (or even a given court) is likely not the same as any other state or court.

Therefore, please be specific and specify which court and state you are referring to (as to letting you off with fines and no points). Also, this depends on the violation, for example I have been given a 2 point deal for 4 point violation, but was told that complete dismissal or non-moving violation is not going to fly (that was in NJ, Somerset county).

Finally, as other posters already suggested, PA is among a few states that does not transfer out-of-state speeding violations (MA does this, too). That does not mean they do not do it the other way, that is transfer in-state violation for an out-of-state driver to his home state. I made this mistake a while ago, too, stating that many states don't do this, but as I learned that is not necessarily the case (and gets worse and worse, as states discover new sources of revenue in the out-of-state violations).