What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? CA
No, I didn't get a ticket, but I noticed a tempting situation near my workplace and am curious if I can take advantage of it.
Near the local strip mall is an intersection that is still under construction. The right turn lane is governed only by a pair of lights that have red arrows. There are no signs that say "No turn on red" in writing, or red circles with the right turn symbol crossed out. I have never seen such a setup without an accompanying sign before. I imagine not many people would even know what a red arrow means without the additional prompting.
Is there anything in the state engineering code that requires such signs, thereby giving a legal loophole to make that turn on red (after stopping)? And yes, I know the CVC by itself doesn't mention such a requirement. 21453(c) reads:
"A driver facing a steady red arrow signal shall not enter the intersection to make the movement indicated by the arrow and, unless entering the intersection to make a movement permitted by another signal, shall stop at a clearly marked limit line, but if none, before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection, or if none, then before entering the intersection, and shall remain stopped until an indication permitting movement is shown."
No, I didn't get a ticket, but I noticed a tempting situation near my workplace and am curious if I can take advantage of it.
Near the local strip mall is an intersection that is still under construction. The right turn lane is governed only by a pair of lights that have red arrows. There are no signs that say "No turn on red" in writing, or red circles with the right turn symbol crossed out. I have never seen such a setup without an accompanying sign before. I imagine not many people would even know what a red arrow means without the additional prompting.
Is there anything in the state engineering code that requires such signs, thereby giving a legal loophole to make that turn on red (after stopping)? And yes, I know the CVC by itself doesn't mention such a requirement. 21453(c) reads:
"A driver facing a steady red arrow signal shall not enter the intersection to make the movement indicated by the arrow and, unless entering the intersection to make a movement permitted by another signal, shall stop at a clearly marked limit line, but if none, before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection, or if none, then before entering the intersection, and shall remain stopped until an indication permitting movement is shown."
