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08-12-2008, 04:17 PM
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Hi there, I'm in West Virginia and I'm having an issue with a karate class. The instructor lied about who was teaching the class until AFTER I signed the stupid contract and she is a psycho who I am not letting anywhere near my daughter. We went to one class which I am happy to pay for. She says she will take me to collections as I signed a six month contract. She didn't tell me that there was No Way Out of the contract and I had NO IDEA anyone would expect such a rock hard commitment for a 19 month old child. Does anyone know anything about buyer's remorse laws in WV?
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08-12-2008, 04:19 PM
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| | | Putting a 19 month old in karate class...I'm not sure who the psycho is in this scenario...
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08-12-2008, 04:21 PM
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| | | There are no buyer's remorse laws in West Virginia...or anywhere else that I know of.
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08-12-2008, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Zigner  Putting a 19 month old in karate class...I'm not sure who the psycho is in this scenario... | Wow, thanks for being so helpful! 
The test class we went to was taught by a preschool teacher with a degree in childhood development, who told me the class was mostly about helping the little ones learn to follow direction. They had a cool obstacle course set up that my daughter went through, she loved it and had a great time.
So no, I am not a psycho.
As for buyer's remorse laws, a quick google shows that they do exist in some states, maybe not in WV. I don't know, which is why I'm asking. But they do exist. |
08-12-2008, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by prettypixels ...
As for buyer's remorse laws, a quick google shows that they do exist in some states, maybe not in WV. I don't know, which is why I'm asking. But they do exist.
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Cite me the statute from ONE state please.
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08-12-2008, 04:55 PM
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| | | OK, maybe they don't exist, I don't know... I can't find statutes, I'm not a lawyer, hence why I'm here asking.
Googling "buyers remorse law" turned up 447,000 hits. You'd think some of those would be legitimate, but if not, fine.
Do you know anything about how to handle it when someone has mislead you into signing a contract? Maybe that phrasing will elicit more help... |
08-12-2008, 04:57 PM
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| | | The general rule is that the contract is only what is in the four corners of the document.
In other words, the verbal stuff is irrelevant.
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08-12-2008, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by seniorjudge The general rule is that the contract is only what is in the four corners of the document.
In other words, the verbal stuff is irrelevant. | OK, I understand that, this is why I wound up paying stupid Bally's for months after I moved 22 miles (but not 25, as per the contract) away. 
But in this particular case, she LIED about who the instructor was for the class I was registering for. Further, she told me on the phone that the instructor who taught our test class is not even certified with the school to teach. (Yet she is still teaching there on another day. I am not sure why she shared that info with me.) I did not see anything within the contract (which of course she did not give me a copy of) which said "there is NO option for cancellation," or anything like that at all. Come on, there has to be SOME option, this is just ridiculous. (Of course this woman is just being a huge b*tch, it would be nothing to her to let me pay for the one class we took and be on our way.)  |
08-12-2008, 05:02 PM
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| | | Federal law requires that consumers be given notice of an unconditional right to cancel a contract within three days of signing. This is often called a "cooling off" period, to handle both buyer's remorse and high-pressure salesmen tactics. |
08-12-2008, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by quincy Federal law requires that consumers be given notice of an unconditional right to cancel a contract within three days of signing. This is often called a "cooling off" period, to handle both buyer's remorse and high-pressure salesmen tactics. | Cite the statute!
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08-12-2008, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by quincy Federal law requires that consumers be given notice of an unconditional right to cancel a contract within three days of signing. This is often called a "cooling off" period, to handle both buyer's remorse and high-pressure salesmen tactics. | Thank you, I'm off to google this. I am not sure if i would've gotten in under the three days though, as the class was Thursday and I called Monday to cancel. I didn't reach the owner to discuss it (though I left her messages) until today, Tuesday. |
08-12-2008, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by prettypixels Thank you, I'm off to google this. I am not sure if i would've gotten in under the three days though, as the class was Thursday and I called Monday to cancel. I didn't reach the owner to discuss it (though I left her messages) until today, Tuesday. | Another internet urban legend.
There is no such law.
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08-12-2008, 05:07 PM
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"To cancel a sale, sign and date one copy of the cancellation form. Mail it to the address given for cancellation, making sure the envelope is post-marked before midnight of the third business day after the contract date. (Saturday is considered a business day; Sundays and federal holidays are not.) Because proof of the mailing date and proof of receipt are important, consider sending the cancellation form by certified mail so you can get a return receipt. Or, consider hand delivering the cancellation notice before midnight of the third business day. Keep the other copy of the cancellation form for your records.
If the seller did not give cancellation forms, you can write your own cancellation letter. It must be post-marked within three business days of the sale.
You do not have to give a reason for canceling your purchase. You have a right to change your mind."
[url=http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/products/pro03.shtm]The Cooling-Off Rule: When and How to Cancel a Sale[/url]
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08-12-2008, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by seniorjudge Another internet urban legend.
There is no such law. | Thoughts on the info I posted from the FTC? |
08-12-2008, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by prettypixels Thoughts on the info I posted from the FTC? | [url=http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/products/pro03.shtm]The Cooling-Off Rule: When and How to Cancel a Sale[/url]
Read the whole thing.
This has absolutely nothing to do with your situation.
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