FAFSA - missing irs return - PA

[TinkerBelleLuvr]

HIS negligence to file a required tax return is going to make the OP/ and or child pay college costs that otherwise would have been covered thru scholarships.

THAT is one of the issues I gunned after on my X.

[Zigner]

Originally Posted by TinkerBelleLuvr

HIS negligence to file a required tax return is going to make the OP/ and or child pay college costs that otherwise would have been covered thru scholarships.

THAT is one of the issues I gunned after on my X.

First, (again), he has no duty in the matter.

Second, even ignoring the lack of a duty in the matter, the OP (or the step-child, for that matter) is CHOOSING to spend the money.

[Bethy]

I'm not quite sure what you're referring to by ignoring, but I DO plan on filing his number with the IRS if that's what you mean....9 years w/o filing (I only recently found out about it)

[Zigner]

Originally Posted by Bethy

I'm not quite sure what you're referring to by ignoring, but I DO plan on filing his number with the IRS if that's what you mean....9 years w/o filing (I only recently found out about it)

Huh?

What I was saying was that, in my second statement, I was allowing for my first statement to be ignored...

[Bethy]

When I was a single mom, FAFSA only requires MY IRS return. When I got married, FAFSA REQUIRES that the step-parent submit THEIR IRS (if it's joint, just the joint one obviously). This is a REQUIREMENT. They are not billing the step-parent, but they need to see the whole household income so they know what 'expendable" income the bio-parent has. PA does not recognize separation, so I can't say "we're separated"....doesn't matter.

No FAFSA grant/loan money will be considered until the students file is complete.

Hubby has not filed in 9 years, but he does not know that I am aware of that...(it'd be too turbulant to bring up). I am not asking for money - I just want the form to complete the file.

If hubby doesn't submit the form, my son/I will be paying full price tuition. I doubt hubby would be forced to pay it back, but I'm mad at the situation he has put us in.

[TinkerBelleLuvr]

You might have to take it to the judge - I did.

[davew128]

Originally Posted by TinkerBelleLuvr

It is NOT unheard of that tax returns be produced as part of a divorce, right? So the judge ORDERS that both parties produce the tax returns. If the STBX doesn't, then he is in contempt.

The issue is with FAFSA. If you are married, they require tax returns from the parent and that parent's spouse. End of story.

If the OP can get the judge to order a tax return for tax year 2008, which was DUE April 15th, the OP has a better chance of the the school bypassing the necessity of the STBX's tax return.

Slow down there Sparky. For all we know, an extension was filed which means the return isn't due for five months. The other part of this is, well quite honestly the hypoethetical judge can order the moon to turn blue too but literally has no authority to require STBX to file squat. A common misconception with local judges in these instances is that they can rule on how people file tax returns. Apparently the supremacy clause of the constitution wasn't covered when they got their law degrees.

[Zigner]

Originally Posted by TinkerBelleLuvr

You might have to take it to the judge - I did.

And, if the OP has no reportable income?

[Bethy]

I found out about the Income tax from NOTHING being submitted to Social Security since 2001.....zero's on his "taxes social security earning" statement. I called SS baffled by this....domino effect and I found out he hadn't filed all those years. He is self employed....and hasn't filed. I have never seen his account. If you read my previous posts, you'll see that I didn't know any of his financial problems when we got married (dah - smack me) only to be drained dry trying to help him out. ...and he wants to come back and make it work saying his temper has changed and he'll pay me back. I'm a sucker

[TinkerBelleLuvr]

See - with having a court order to have the tax return, and him not complying, I was able to get around the problem of having dad's tax return. K'?

I didn't say that the X actually complied, cuz he didn't. But, it gave me leverage to get around the requirement.

[davew128]

You're missing another possibility: He is self employed and showing a LOSS. SS reporting shows wages and self employed income. Wages are reported to SSA independently of your tax return. Self employed income is reported to SSA via your tax return, and if the income is a loss, you get the same result as if it wasn't reported in the first place: 0.

[Bethy]

there was a little more to it than that....I was told he didn't file. It was a LONG domino effect.....