our dependent claimed by new boyfriend

[grndprt]

What is the name of your state? Maryland
Our daughter moved home from Florida in 2007 (march). We cared for her and she delivered a child in May. Again they remained in our care since the paternity was unsure and she had no job. We provided everything they needed. December15th, she met a guy on internet and moved in with him 2nd week of January 2008. He claimed the baby as an 2007 dependent even though he didn't even know them. We asked him to amend his taxes and he refused stating, "I'm not changing a thing". He received a large refund from IRS and state for this deduction and paid his debt off for accumalated child support for his other children. There are plenty of witnesses and receipts to prove we took care of them. We filed extention to allow for the correction and he still refused. What can we do? Also, our daughter started to collect welfare late 2007. Does this need to be reported and by whom? We never took a penny but still paid for most expenses.
Please advise.

[Daisypc]

You know the same thing happen to me for year 2003. I filed my income tax and at the end of the year 2004 , I get a letter from the IRS stating that they received two 2003 federal income tax return using the same social security of my grandson. I called and told them that I have every right to claim my Grandson for the year 2003. And they told me that because my daughter was married that year , her husband has every right to claim my grandchild on his tax return. I said really, well then I know for sure he never work a day in his life to even claim or even file for a tax return. Me and my husband claim our grandchild for the Dependency exemption the other person claim him for the Earn Income Credit. So what I did was Wrote a letter to Criminal Investigation in Washington DC and send copy of my tax returns and some court paper that my grandson was taken to PA on August of 2003. I never heard from the IRS again.

And my daughter was married off in September 2003
btw and my daughter and grandson was put on welfare in september 2003
but if you could prove your daughter and grandchild live with you , I would go ahead and file it.

[LdiJ]

Originally Posted by grndprt

What is the name of your state? Maryland
Our daughter moved home from Florida in 2007 (march). We cared for her and she delivered a child in May. Again they remained in our care since the paternity was unsure and she had no job. We provided everything they needed. December15th, she met a guy on internet and moved in with him 2nd week of January 2008. He claimed the baby as an 2007 dependent even though he didn't even know them. We asked him to amend his taxes and he refused stating, "I'm not changing a thing". He received a large refund from IRS and state for this deduction and paid his debt off for accumalated child support for his other children. There are plenty of witnesses and receipts to prove we took care of them. We filed extention to allow for the correction and he still refused. What can we do? Also, our daughter started to collect welfare late 2007. Does this need to be reported and by whom? We never took a penny but still paid for most expenses.
Please advise.

When exactly did she start collecting welfare, because that could be a problem. If its was November or December its not, but if it was earlier than that, it could be.

You can claim both your grandchild, and your daughter if she was not working, as long as you can prove that she was livng in your household and that you were supporting them.

You will have to file a paper return. You will get your refund. Later on in the year the IRS will investigate the duplicate claim, and since the boyfriend won't be able to prove anything, he will end up having to pay back the IRS.

Now, do keep in mind that this will make the boyfriend very angry, and therefore your daughter is likely to be angry with you, and may cut you off from seeing the baby. However, he won't know that he is going to have to pay the IRS back until late in 2008.

[Daisypc]

Grandparents has to be strong and don’t allow your children to manipulate you or blackmail you. Because if you do they will always control you using your grandchildrens. My daughter came back home with her husband and her son and her unborn child in February 2004. And in July 2004, I suggested to the husband to find a job so he could support his new family. He got upset and bad mouth me and took my daughter out from my home with the my grandson to live from house to house. And within 2 week of him taking my daughter and my grandchild , he called me up on the phone and told me. If I don’t allow him back into the house that he was going to take my daughter and his sons to a different state ( FL) and I will never see them again. I said to him on the phone have a nice trip and I hung up on him. They did go to FL, and in September of 2004 the kids came back to me and in December of 2004 I was giving temporary custody of them in NYC. And in 2004 I claim my 2 grandson on my tax return. And my daughter husband had them on welfare in July 2004, and I did the same thing, wrote a letter and send copy of everything and I was allow to claim both my grandson.

And in Jan 2005 my daughter calls me up and told me that her husband is going to claim the kids on his 2004 tax return. I said sure go right ahead , he has every right to file a tax return. my daughter gave him that msg and he didnt like it. he was calling me all kind of names. I just hung up the phone.

[grndprt]

Originally Posted by LdiJ

When exactly did she start collecting welfare, because that could be a problem. If its was November or December its not, but if it was earlier than that, it could be.

I'm not sure but I think it was around October. We've had verbal confrontations over the issue but my daughter didn't receive any benefit just he did. So I don't feel bad if he has to pay it back. I feel like my daughter totally disregarded the effect it would have on us and allowed this misjustice to occur. This guys complete disrespect and audasity to claim a child he didn't know in 2007 drives me to want the claim as a matter of principle. He needs to realize we refuse to be blackmailed or allow him to think he can pull these stunts without consequence. If we don't persue he will just do something to take advantage of us. We feel this was fraud.

[grndprt]

Originally Posted by LdiJ

When exactly did she start collecting welfare, because that could be a problem. If its was November or December its not, but if it was earlier than that, it could be.

I'm not sure but I think it was around October. We've had verbal confrontations over the issue but my daughter didn't receive any benefit just he did. So I don't feel bad if he has to pay it back. I feel like my daughter totally disregarded the effect it would have on us and allowed this misjustice to occur. This guys complete disrespect and audasity to claim a child he didn't know in 2007 drives me to want the claim as a matter of principle. He needs to realize we refuse to be blackmailed or allow him to think he can pull these stunts without consequence. If we don't persue he will just do something to advantage of us. We feel this was fraud.

[grndprt]

Originally Posted by Daisypc

Grandparents has to be strong and don’t allow your children to manipulate you or blackmail you. Because if you do they will always control you using your grandchildrens. My daughter came back home with her husband and her son and her unborn child in February 2004. And in July 2004, I suggested to the husband to find a job so he could support his new family. He got upset and bad mouth me and took my daughter out from my home with the my grandson to live from house to house. And within 2 week of him taking my daughter and my grandchild , he called me up on the phone and told me. If I don’t allow him back into the house that he was going to take my daughter and his sons to a different state ( FL) and I will never see them again. I said to him on the phone have a nice trip and I hung up on him. They did go to FL, and in September of 2004 the kids came back to me and in December of 2004 I was giving temporary custody of them in NYC. And in 2004 I claim my 2 grandson on my tax return. And my daughter husband had them on welfare in July 2004, and I did the same thing, wrote a letter and send copy of everything and I was allow to claim both my grandson.

And in Jan 2005 my daughter calls me up and told me that her husband is going to claim the kids on his 2004 tax return. I said sure go right ahead , he has every right to file a tax return. my daughter gave him that msg and he didnt like it. he was calling me all kind of names. I just hung up the phone.

What's happening with our daughters. This boyfriend threatened today to get a peace order tomorrow against me due to phone conversions over the issue and they're threats to
keep my grandchild from me. I never went near them or threatened harm. Yet I feel he may retaliate against my grandson. I have seen pinch marks on his chest and back and know my daughter didn't do it. I'm an RN and recognize this type of petechaie when I see it. I just can't prove he did the damage. He has a history of conflict with all his previous girlfriends parents. And always moves quickly to isolate and cause conflict between mother and daughter. One girlfriend fled with her parents to the other side of the country with his 2 children out of wedlock. He tried to cause conflict but failed as she fled hile he was at work. He's bipolar and gets irrational when not taking his medications.

[grndprt]

Also this guy is not the paternal father.

[Daisypc]

I understand what you going through I really do. I have been there myself. Sometime you just got to let go your children and your grandchildren . And like I said before , if you have every right to claim your daughter and your grandson, you do it. If he married your daughter in 2007, you would not be able to claim them. I was told that in the year 2003. But like I said before my daughter husband at the time, he never work a day in his life to to even file a income tax. Someone else claim my grandson in the year 2003 and it was for the Earn Income Credit and when it comes down to Parental Rights, dealing with the court system here in NYC , Grandparents don’t have any rights. My daughter got involve With some Trashy Con-Artists and because the LAW allow these people to get away with it, she lost all her 3 children because of it . The last time I saw my grandchildren was in August 24, 2005. That’s because I refuse to share custody with those TRASH. They should have been ARRESTED for taking my daughter into Pennsylvania and marry her off in 2003. I don’t care if my daughter was at AGE, no one has the right to decide my daughter future. If it wasn’t for them , my daughter would not be living in the street from house to house and if it wasn’t for them, she wouldn't be having BABIES every nine months.

[Daisypc]

I understand what you going through I really do. I have been there myself. Sometime you just got to let go your children and your grandchildren . And like I said before , if you have every right to claim your daughter and your grandson, you do it. If he married your daughter in 2007, you would not be able to claim them. I was told that in the year 2003. But like I said before my daughter husband at the time, he never work a day in his life to to even file a income tax. Someone else claim my grandson in the year 2003 and it was for the Earn Income Credit and when it comes down to Parental Rights, dealing with the court system here in NYC , Grandparents don’t have any rights. My daughter got involve With some Trashy Con-Artists and because the LAW allow these people to get away with it, she lost all her 3 children because of it . The last time I saw my grandchildren was in August 24, 2005. That’s because I refuse to share custody with those TRASH. They should have been ARRESTED for taking my daughter into Pennsylvania and marry her off in 2003. I don’t care if my daughter was at AGE, no one has the right to decide my daughter future. If it wasn’t for them , my daughter would not be living in the street from house to house and if it wasn’t for them, she wouldnt be having BABIES every nine months.


now look at the profile of this poster

[LdiJ]

Originally Posted by Daisypc

I understand what you going through I really do. I have been there myself. Sometime you just got to let go your children and your grandchildren . And like I said before , if you have every right to claim your daughter and your grandson, you do it. If he married your daughter in 2007, you would not be able to claim them. I was told that in the year 2003. But like I said before my daughter husband at the time, he never work a day in his life to to even file a income tax. Someone else claim my grandson in the year 2003 and it was for the Earn Income Credit and when it comes down to Parental Rights, dealing with the court system here in NYC , Grandparents don’t have any rights. My daughter got involve With some Trashy Con-Artists and because the LAW allow these people to get away with it, she lost all her 3 children because of it . The last time I saw my grandchildren was in August 24, 2005. That’s because I refuse to share custody with those TRASH. They should have been ARRESTED for taking my daughter into Pennsylvania and marry her off in 2003. I don’t care if my daughter was at AGE, no one has the right to decide my daughter future. If it wasn’t for them , my daughter would not be living in the street from house to house and if it wasn’t for them, she wouldnt be having BABIES every nine months.


now look at the profile of this poster

Respectfully, this is a tax law forum and not a forum to discuss the type of issues that you are discussing.

[Daisypc]

Originally Posted by LdiJ

Respectfully, this is a tax law forum and not a forum to discuss the type of issues that you are discussing.

tax forum oh ok I understand . thanks for the input.

[CourtClerk]

Originally Posted by Daisypc

Please delete those web sites of your child, or I will. You need to look at the posting history of this poster.

Wait. Aren't you the one that sent me (a total and complete stranger) a link to YOUR daughter's webpage and asked me to view it?

How... is that different? Please get off your high horse.

[fairisfair]

it isn't Shay that is deleting your postings Daisy.

The moderator is currently reviewing them. They will continue to be removed as long as you continue to address other posters in this manner.

[Daisypc]

Originally Posted by fairisfair

it isn't Shay that is deleting your postings Daisy.

The moderator is currently reviewing them. They will continue to be removed as long as you continue to address other posters in this manner.

In what manner? Its ok for that poster to address me like that. Please get off your high horse? If that poster doesn’t know what was said in forum why brotherd putting in their 2 cents in. and like I already explain myself why I posted that way, because I didn’t use the quote button . I copy and paste to that other poster. And that other poster arleady told me not to put my daughter web site in the forum.