Working but income unreported, for years

[Joe Citizen]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? California.
I just want to know one thing, I know someone who is actively doing this, and has been for many years because she did not want to pay child, and knew that if she get's a ligitimate job, they will garnish her wages. So, how does the IRS or D.A. go about prosecuting this when there is no paper trail and it's all cash??? What's their procedure in this case or what do they do when they suspect? If a person reports someone to them, do they only need their statement to act on it? And if it's someone close that you don't want them to know you told, and don't want their "bad" affecting you either, can this be assured through either agency? How? If anyone can help me with this, thanks.

[LdiJ]

Originally Posted by Joe Citizen

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? California.
I just want to know one thing, I know someone who is actively doing this, and has been for many years because she did not want to pay child, and knew that if she get's a ligitimate job, they will garnish her wages. So, how does the IRS or D.A. go about prosecuting this when there is no paper trail and it's all cash??? What's their procedure in this case or what do they do when they suspect? If a person reports someone to them, do they only need their statement to act on it? And if it's someone close that you don't want them to know you told, and don't want their "bad" affecting you either, can this be assured through either agency? How? If anyone can help me with this, thanks.

In all honesty, it would be difficult for the DA or the IRS to prove that someone is not declaring income if the income is completely under the table. The IRS does not have the time or resources to go after every single person unless an employer is reporting income to them, and therefore puts more effort into stopping the employers that pay people completely under the table.

One thing that this person does not realize, is that she is amassing no social security credit, and can and will end up being a very poor, old person, as a result.

[Joe Citizen]

Oh, so unless they HAVE something to go off of, it's just not prudent to make accusations and break someone's right's of privacy to chase a hunch huh?? Well, I'm trying to keep thing's normal so I don't see my sons later ruined by this divorce. It feels like I'm hurting my sons "telling" on their mom and I'm scared as well. The D.A. have someone investigating and he asked me and I froze and started mumbling something like, " it's none of my business so I don't ask and the kids are used to her and we can't fix her but she's not sleeping here so I just minimize the chatter and dream I'm in Maui while her presence alters time and space and realize how lucky I am she LEAVES now." He left, upset though. Called again asking for a number where he can reach her guy friend. I said, sure. Ever since then I have felt real strong urges to "sing like a canary" and ask for something like clemency or a pardon or a do over to cleanse myself.
Then it was made easier for me today-Yeah! (Thanks God!)
There was a document (a letter) written to someone she needed to get with, in her OWN handwriting to re-schedule a recent meeting because, " she didn't want to miss 2 days of work if 1 can cover both appointments for the similar matter" and then she closed it saying to "call her at work and let me know, here's my work number...", that would bring this to a process of starting the turning of the legal grinding wheels of justice huh? And, it was totally left along with another letter that was specifically intended for me...same paper and pen, all of a sudden it's pretty obvious this disregard and carelessness is attributed to someone who is beyond worries of responsibilities we others try extremely hard to stay on top of "for the sake of being decent", let alone when it's our obligations for our kids. I didn't even want to be a part of anything except clearing my guilt. So, this will be a conversation starter in court and in the office of the D.A. Wow! Unless the way I'm seeing it is too easy and this bliss will be short lived my some legal person trying to help (ha!) I'm going to find out the best way to handle filing this.....hehehe

[LdiJ]

Originally Posted by Joe Citizen

Oh, so unless they HAVE something to go off of, it's just not prudent to make accusations and break someone's right's of privacy to chase a hunch huh?? Well, I'm trying to keep thing's normal so I don't see my sons later ruined by this divorce. It feels like I'm hurting my sons "telling" on their mom and I'm scared as well. The D.A. have someone investigating and he asked me and I froze and started mumbling something like, " it's none of my business so I don't ask and the kids are used to her and we can't fix her but she's not sleeping here so I just minimize the chatter and dream I'm in Maui while her presence alters time and space and realize how lucky I am she LEAVES now." He left, upset though. Called again asking for a number where he can reach her guy friend. I said, sure. Ever since then I have felt real strong urges to "sing like a canary" and ask for something like clemency or a pardon or a do over to cleanse myself.
Then it was made easier for me today-Yeah! (Thanks God!)
There was a document (a letter) written to someone she needed to get with, in her OWN handwriting to re-schedule a recent meeting because, " she didn't want to miss 2 days of work if 1 can cover both appointments for the similar matter" and then she closed it saying to "call her at work and let me know, here's my work number...", that would bring this to a process of starting the turning of the legal grinding wheels of justice huh? And, it was totally left along with another letter that was specifically intended for me...same paper and pen, all of a sudden it's pretty obvious this disregard and carelessness is attributed to someone who is beyond worries of responsibilities we others try extremely hard to stay on top of "for the sake of being decent", let alone when it's our obligations for our kids. I didn't even want to be a part of anything except clearing my guilt. So, this will be a conversation starter in court and in the office of the D.A. Wow! Unless the way I'm seeing it is too easy and this bliss will be short lived my some legal person trying to help (ha!) I'm going to find out the best way to handle filing this.....hehehe

You are obviously upset, but I have to tell you that none of that made any sense whatsoever.

[Joe Citizen]

I am-she makes me upset sometimes so I vent and I guess that's what happened. And there's so much to deal with being a single dad (it kinda sucks being alone/no backup parent) and I especially don't want visits asking about her actions from the D.A. or anyone in uniforms or suits.
But when we have the divorce official, I'll feel better- So sorry about that last item, I know what I mean Thanks