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06-14-2006, 10:22 PM
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| | Does this sound like non- representation? What is the name of your state New York
Hello-
Basically, I am looking for a simple answer. Is this worth fighting for, or should I just let it go?
Here's the basics, and I will try to keep it to basics. My dept is going through a job reclassification. Basically, the company wants to merge the functions of two depts into one. I am new to the dept, but not to the company. There are 3 levels in my job classification, and I am at the lowest level. There are 26 positions similar to mine company wide. The job reclassification will put me pay wise when I reach the top level at a pay disparity with someone with more dept seniority based on the negotiations the union worked out, and it will amount to over $100,000 in just wages (based on today's pay scale) not counting disparity in Soc Sec, pension, 401k contributions...meaning that I bid on the same job as someone one step higher than me, less company seniority, and in the end of all the restructuring will have less education requirements to fulfill. This is over 20 years time (I'm assuming 20 years until retirement for both me and my comparison co-worker). The job I bid on also had a training period of 18 months that is being extended to two years, and now the new job classification will have me at the low level for an extra six months, but I will now be required to do the higher level work for the six months.
I guess I know that I am screwed, and I am angry that the Union is making those of us who are trainees sacrificial lambs. If I were to contact a labor lawyer, would he/she tell me that I don't have much of a case?? I feel like I am not being represented by the Union at all!!
Thanks for any advice you can afford. | 
06-15-2006, 04:22 PM
| | Junior Member | | Join Date: Jun 2006
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| | | Does this sound like non-representation?
Yes it seems that your Union is not too concerned about your situation. After reading your thread carefully, I must say your company is giving you a lousy deal! It appears they are going to place heavy demands on you in this new position and they intend to pay you very little "Peanuts"! You have a choice! Most people including myself would just get another job! Why put up with a tremendous work load and low pay? I am sure you have other options. "Reclassification" is a nice way of saying "Demotion". Many times when companies merge or consolidate departments they "lay Off" or eliminate employees that they feel they do not need. I am not saying this will happen, but the possibility exists. Good luck!
Last edited by BarbT; 06-15-2006 at 04:51 PM.
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06-20-2006, 02:20 PM
| | Junior Member | | Join Date: Mar 2006
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| | | Does this sound like non-representation???? Are you sure you have a Union??
If you are not new to the company just the department, where is your seniority??? With the information you gave in your post, sounds like you have
very little room for growth within this new position....You mentioned a disparity in salary...That should tell you something about the position as well as your company....In my company we have only "Three" major reasons for "Reclassifying" an employees position and duties**************
1. "Reclassification" occurs when the company is looking to cut costs and improve employee productivity......
2. An employee will be "Reclassified" following disciplinary action taken against them....(sort of a demotion)..and alternative to termination....
3. The employee may request a "Reclassification" when they can no longer meet the demands of the job****************************......
My advice to you..Consult with a seasoned Employment-Labor Attorney********************************************************
Last edited by Belle360; 06-20-2006 at 02:27 PM.
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06-26-2006, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tamjar1966 What is the name of your state New York
Hello-
Basically, I am looking for a simple answer. Is this worth fighting for, or should I just let it go?
Here's the basics, and I will try to keep it to basics. My dept is going through a job reclassification. Basically, the company wants to merge the functions of two depts into one. I am new to the dept, but not to the company. There are 3 levels in my job classification, and I am at the lowest level. There are 26 positions similar to mine company wide. The job reclassification will put me pay wise when I reach the top level at a pay disparity with someone with more dept seniority based on the negotiations the union worked out, and it will amount to over $100,000 in just wages (based on today's pay scale) not counting disparity in Soc Sec, pension, 401k contributions...meaning that I bid on the same job as someone one step higher than me, less company seniority, and in the end of all the restructuring will have less education requirements to fulfill. This is over 20 years time (I'm assuming 20 years until retirement for both me and my comparison co-worker). The job I bid on also had a training period of 18 months that is being extended to two years, and now the new job classification will have me at the low level for an extra six months, but I will now be required to do the higher level work for the six months.
I guess I know that I am screwed, and I am angry that the Union is making those of us who are trainees sacrificial lambs. If I were to contact a labor lawyer, would he/she tell me that I don't have much of a case?? I feel like I am not being represented by the Union at all!!
Thanks for any advice you can afford. | There is nothing illegal taking place. If you feel that the reorganization the company is doing violates the CBA, then you're free to file a grievance. If you don't like the way the union is representing your interests, then you're free to challenge local union leadership at the next election or find a job elsewhere.
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