What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?
Minnesota
I believe my state has policies/ordinances that are unlawful.
1) curfews (for both minors AND adults) are enacted in certain areas.
2) there are fees for using PUBLIC land.
from what I have researched there are three main types of curfew laws.
Then I read this.
It is against your first amendment right to impose a curfew (the right to assemble is valid at any hour) so as long as you are expressing an opinion (which could be anything as simple as just wearing a t-shirt) then you cant be prosecuted for curfew violation however you still could be arrested because lets be honest here, cops dont know the law. they simply enforce whatever they are told to do. arrest them all, let the judge sort them out right?
now before anyone replies...
I AM AWARE that the police can arrest you for anything or nothing at all, and you will have to defend yourself in court later. so dont reply with stupid comments and please try to stay on topic.
also i know the constitution is SUPPOSED to be the highest law in the land but that does not stop the powers in control from violating it anyway and then having to waste your time money energy and resources fighting it.
In my pursuit of happiness, life and liberty... and trying to live the american dream, I have found something I really enjoy. I have been playing frisbee golf.
Two problems.
1) My friends who I play with work during the day and we only have time to play at night and the public parks all have signs that say they close at 10:00 p.m. (imposing a curfew on public land which is not a business, emergency or age related)
2) The state has seen frisbee golf as a new form of revenue. they force people to pay between $3-5 to play a round in a public park which the course was already established, and that I already pay taxes for. (turning the right to gather in a public place that was free into a privilege you must now pay for)
The point of this thread is asking if anyone knows of anything in the state/federal constitution that specifically gives them the legal right to impose curfews and charge fees on public land, because I cannot find any. and if they are in violation of the law, then what would be the best possible legal recourse when they arrest/fine me and violate my rights to assemble?
Minnesota
I believe my state has policies/ordinances that are unlawful.
1) curfews (for both minors AND adults) are enacted in certain areas.
2) there are fees for using PUBLIC land.
from what I have researched there are three main types of curfew laws.
But what about certain areas? nothing is mentioned about parks.Juvenile Curfew Laws
Juvenile curfew laws are typically enacted at the state and local level, and prohibit people of a certain age (usually under 18) from being in public or in a business establishment during certain hours (such as between 11:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m.). Goals behind these laws are frequently cited as maintenance of social order, and prevention of juvenile crime.
Emergency Curfew Laws
Emergency curfews are usually temporary orders that are put in place -- by federal, state, or local government -- in response to a particular crisis, like a natural disaster or ongoing civil disturbance. A few examples of emergency curfews:
* In August 2008, the city of New Orleans instituted an emergency "dusk to dawn" curfew as Hurricane Gustav approached the Gulf Coast.
* In September 2008, Houston instituted a midnight-to-6:00a.m. curfew as the city sought to clean up debris and repair power outages due to Hurricane Ike.
* In April 1992, authorities in Los Angeles imposed a dusk-to-dawn curfew and deployed the National Guard to help quell city-wide civil disturbances, after the acquittal of LAPD officers involved in the beating of Rodney King.
A city's laws may give the mayor the express power to take certain curfew-related actions in response to a local emergency. For example, the New York City Administrative Code authorizes the mayor of New York City to order curfews "including, but not limited to, the prohibition of or restrictions on pedestrian and vehicular movement, standing and parking, except for the provision of designated essential services such as fire, police and hospital services including the transportation of patients thereto, utility emergency repairs and emergency calls by physicians."
Business Curfews
Some cities have enacted business curfew laws that require businesses in densely-populated and/or high-crime areas to close during late-night hours, i.e. from 11:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. Typically, businesses curfews do not apply to late-night pharmacies and bars, but are applicable to restaurants, liquor stores, and other establishments where people may gather.
Like juvenile curfew laws, often a city's business curfew law will remain on the books but be enforced only periodically, usually as a law enforcement response to an increased incidence of local crime and violence.
What are Curfew Laws? - Civil Rights
Then I read this.
My understanding of this:We found an incredible curfew article that specifically points out that curfews are only constitutional if they allow people to exercise their First Amendment rights at any time. The courts routinely strike down city curfews but cities usually respond by amending them with a FIRST AMENDMENT EXCEPTION to make them constitutional.
For example, about 18 days after the 9th Circuit Court of the United States, which is one level below the Supreme Court, struck down the San Diego curfew, the San Diego Mayor revised it to include the First Amendment exception. About two weeks after the revision, we started to protest the law. Because we knew our rights, no one was arrested at any of the protests.
Please read the article so that you completely understand that you have the right to be out past curfew IF you exercise your First Amendment rights. You do not need to attend a political rally, you only need to express a political opinion. If you don’t have one of our stickers, which have a political message, then write a political message on one of your T-shirts and use that as your constitutional shield.
Curfews are constitutional due to 1st Amendment exception : Libertarian Rock
It is against your first amendment right to impose a curfew (the right to assemble is valid at any hour) so as long as you are expressing an opinion (which could be anything as simple as just wearing a t-shirt) then you cant be prosecuted for curfew violation however you still could be arrested because lets be honest here, cops dont know the law. they simply enforce whatever they are told to do. arrest them all, let the judge sort them out right?
now before anyone replies...
I AM AWARE that the police can arrest you for anything or nothing at all, and you will have to defend yourself in court later. so dont reply with stupid comments and please try to stay on topic.
also i know the constitution is SUPPOSED to be the highest law in the land but that does not stop the powers in control from violating it anyway and then having to waste your time money energy and resources fighting it.
In my pursuit of happiness, life and liberty... and trying to live the american dream, I have found something I really enjoy. I have been playing frisbee golf.
Two problems.
1) My friends who I play with work during the day and we only have time to play at night and the public parks all have signs that say they close at 10:00 p.m. (imposing a curfew on public land which is not a business, emergency or age related)
2) The state has seen frisbee golf as a new form of revenue. they force people to pay between $3-5 to play a round in a public park which the course was already established, and that I already pay taxes for. (turning the right to gather in a public place that was free into a privilege you must now pay for)
The point of this thread is asking if anyone knows of anything in the state/federal constitution that specifically gives them the legal right to impose curfews and charge fees on public land, because I cannot find any. and if they are in violation of the law, then what would be the best possible legal recourse when they arrest/fine me and violate my rights to assemble?
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