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01-03-2006, 03:25 PM
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I live in PA, and live with my parents as I am under 18. I am being punished for not having the same religious beliefs as my family. When I say that I should not be punished because of the Constitution and that it is my natural right to freedom of religion, not a right gained in adulthood. They try to tell me that i'm stupid and should believe in their christian god. Is this even legal? As I know that taken at face this is highly unconstitutional. |
01-03-2006, 03:33 PM
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| | | Well if you did NOT live with your follks you can have and express any beliefs you want to. Unless they are giving you some extreme punishment that would be considered battery you don't have alot of choice.
Bottom line is you have every right afforded you in the constitution. So do your parents. If you do not want to abide by their rules you have every right to leave. |
01-03-2006, 04:30 PM
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| | | Many people are confused by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights (the first 10 amendments). The Bill of Rights places limits on the GOVERNMENT in what it can do to its citizens.
Unless your parents are being instructed by a judge to teach Christianity to you, then the Constitution has nothing to do with it. |
01-04-2006, 06:29 PM
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| | | The Government cannot impose religious doctrine/belief or practice on you.
However, parents are free to establish rules for their children while living under their roof.
Put up with it until you are living under your own roof. That's life - parent's house, parent's rules. They can't change your beliefs but they can demand compliance with such things as church attendance while you live with them.
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01-04-2006, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by nextwife The Government cannot impose religious doctrine/belief or practice on you.
However, parents are free to establish rules for their children while living under their roof.
Put up with it until you are living under your own roof. That's life - parent's house, parent's rules. They can't change your beliefs but they can demand compliance with such things as church attendance while you live with them. |
**A: parents rule..... |
01-10-2006, 02:56 AM
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| | | And when you're out on your own you can be as stupid as you want with your new "freedom".
BTW: your parents aren't as dumb as you think they are. You'll figure that out someday. |
01-10-2006, 10:42 AM
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| | | [quote=dallas702]And when you're out on your own you can be as stupid as you want with your new "freedom".
**A: and new religion. |
01-10-2006, 04:44 PM
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| | | LOL! Yeah, I hear the Krishnas are still looking for a few good men. |
01-10-2006, 06:40 PM
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| | If your faith lies outside of the Xtian spectrum, you had better learn quickly to get used to discrimination. If you think things will get easier once you are out of your parents' home, think again.
My family is openly Pagan and we have issues everyday, being in the bible belt doesn't help much. 
Anyway, I find it easier to remember that every faith has its merits. I would not say that I agree with any one faith in its entirety. Go to church, learn about the faith and take the parts that you agree with and apply it in your own life. This doesn't have to be a bad thing. It is what you make of it.
You have a lot of growing up to do and respecting other faiths will help you along the way.
BTW Dallas, the Mahabharata is awesome, you should read it. As with any ancient text, a lot becomes "lost in translation" but it is a great war story. Somehow, I fell that you would appreciate it.
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01-26-2006, 03:55 PM
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| | You can call Child Protection Services about the perceived unjust punishment part. Never lie or fabricate anything to CPS. They probably cannot do much. But dependent children also have a little negotiating power eg being a squeaky wheel. eg A loud crying baby is negotiating that she wants to be fed. So just the act of talking to CPS is a good lesson in negotiating.
It goes both ways though. Parents can make your life more miserable than it currently is also. 
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01-27-2006, 02:47 PM
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| | | Are you a complete moron BSharp? Call child protection?
GEEZ.
You need help dude, for real.
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01-27-2006, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by badapple40 Are you a complete moron BSharp? Call child protection?
GEEZ.
You need help dude, for real. | You do not know the half of it badapple, he was wreaking havok in the RE forum!
You however have my deepest respect.
And no Bflat this is not forum follower behavior. Badapple is one of the best around here and helps numerous people. I am just glad another one of the Big Guns get to see right thru you.
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01-27-2006, 02:58 PM
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| | | think of it as an opportunity to learn. nobody can "make" you believe anything. You might not agree with their beliefs but you should certainly respect their interest in your education. |
01-27-2006, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BSharp You can call Child Protection Services about the perceived unjust punishment part. Never lie or fabricate anything to CPS. They probably cannot do much. But dependent children also have a little negotiating power eg being a squeaky wheel. eg A loud crying baby is negotiating that she wants to be fed. So just the act of talking to CPS is a good lesson in negotiating.
It goes both ways though. Parents can make your life more miserable than it currently is also. |
**A: more BS from BS harp.
Yes we can see it now. The police and CPS all at the home of the writer. Demanding that the parents turn over all bibles, Christian CD's, the cross on the mantle and even the picture of the Last Supper hanging on the wall. Of course every item will be inventoried and marked as evidence.
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01-27-2006, 03:02 PM
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| | | [quote=ENASNI]You do not know the half of it badapple, he was wreaking havok in the RE forum!
**A: when I tire of BS harp, he will BFlat. | |
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