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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? NY

My husband died this August, after 7 years of marriage to me. He had three children and two ex-wives from previous marriages. He was set up to leave his children $100K per child with life policies, but in both cases the insurance companies are coming back with denials that will need to be fought. These policies were in my name but non-taxable so I could have transferred them over without consequence. I have one child of my own in college who had no benefits.

He also left me about $200K in benefits that come from his 20+ years as a teacher in NY state. Only $50K of this could be withdrawn without tax consequences; the rest is structured to go into a retirement account although it could be cashed out in full.

His second ex wife has found an old will from 2001 that she intended to use to force me to hand over the life insurance policies. This will leaves absolutely everything to her since it was drawn up when they were married and my husband never updated it.

She has sent me a waiver and consent to probate with her father as executor. We have a shared goal of getting her father and the judge to work on the insurance companies. If successful, my husband's estate is $500,000 and his children have college money; if they do not succeed, all we have are the $200,000 in retirement benefits among us.

I have always intended to give them the life insurance policies as that was what my husband wanted. But I'm concerned that if I sign this consent, the ex-wife may be able to force me to cash out the $200 in retirement which names me as a beneficiary. My main concern here is that I am self-employed and my tax rate is very high. If I cashed out the whole thing, the amount over $50K could be taxed at 35% to 40%, which I cannot afford to pay on a distribution to my husbands' ex wives.

Essentially, I would like the ex's husband to be able to go after these insurance companies, but I don't want to void my interest in my deceased husband's estate, which is limited to his educational benefits, although I am more than willing to share whatever that turns out to be.

I do not want to fight this with my own attorney, it has only been two months since my husband died and the last thing I want the next year to be about is a protracted legal battle over his assets. I would just like your thoughts please.
 


TheGeekess

Keeper of the Kraken
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? NY

My husband died this August, after 7 years of marriage to me. He had three children and two ex-wives from previous marriages. He was set up to leave his children $100K per child with life policies, but in both cases the insurance companies are coming back with denials that will need to be fought. These policies were in my name but non-taxable so I could have transferred them over without consequence. I have one child of my own in college who had no benefits.

He also left me about $200K in benefits that come from his 20+ years as a teacher in NY state. Only $50K of this could be withdrawn without tax consequences; the rest is structured to go into a retirement account although it could be cashed out in full.

His second ex wife has found an old will from 2001 that she intended to use to force me to hand over the life insurance policies. This will leaves absolutely everything to her since it was drawn up when they were married and my husband never updated it.

She has sent me a waiver and consent to probate with her father as executor. We have a shared goal of getting her father and the judge to work on the insurance companies. If successful, my husband's estate is $500,000 and his children have college money; if they do not succeed, all we have are the $200,000 in retirement benefits among us.

I have always intended to give them the life insurance policies as that was what my husband wanted. But I'm concerned that if I sign this consent, the ex-wife may be able to force me to cash out the $200 in retirement which names me as a beneficiary. My main concern here is that I am self-employed and my tax rate is very high. If I cashed out the whole thing, the amount over $50K could be taxed at 35% to 40%, which I cannot afford to pay on a distribution to my husbands' ex wives.

Essentially, I would like the ex's husband to be able to go after these insurance companies, but I don't want to void my interest in my deceased husband's estate, which is limited to his educational benefits, although I am more than willing to share whatever that turns out to be.

I do not want to fight this with my own attorney, it has only been two months since my husband died and the last thing I want the next year to be about is a protracted legal battle over his assets. I would just like your thoughts please.
Life insurance is not dealt with by Probate. The policies pay out to whoever is beneficiary and that's it. :cool:
 

anteater

Senior Member
He had three children and two ex-wives from previous marriages. He was set up to leave his children $100K per child with life policies, but in both cases the insurance companies are coming back with denials that will need to be fought. These policies were in my name but non-taxable so I could have transferred them over without consequence. I have one child of my own in college who had no benefits.
I am a bit lost here. What do you mean by "... policies were in my name?" Are you named as the beneficiary? Or are the 3 children were named as the beneficiaries on the policies? Are the children minors? Why the denials?

His second ex wife has found an old will from 2001 that she intended to use to force me to hand over the life insurance policies. This will leaves absolutely everything to her since it was drawn up when they were married and my husband never updated it.

She has sent me a waiver and consent to probate with her father as executor
While the will may still be valid if not revoked, any provisions in favor of an ex-spouse would be disregarded. Under New York law, I honestly don't know if the nomination of the ex-spouse's father as executor would also be disregarded. I suspect that it might be, but a New York attorney would have to chime in on that.

But I'm concerned that if I sign this consent, the ex-wife may be able to force me to cash out the $200 in retirement which names me as a beneficiary. My main concern here is that I am self-employed and my tax rate is very high. If I cashed out the whole thing, the amount over $50K could be taxed at 35% to 40%, which I cannot afford to pay on a distribution to my husbands' ex wives.
Huh? If you were the designated beneficiary for his retirement benefits, they are yours. They are not probate assets. And the ex-spouses don't get a crack at them.

Essentially, I would like the ex's husband to be able to go after these insurance companies...
Lost again... Why would the ex's husband go after the insurance companies?
 
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tranquility

Senior Member
The ex is not your friend. Her husband is not doing you any favors. Go to your own attorney and get professional advice. How you feel today is not how you will feel tomorrow and tomorrow will be too late.
 

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