Meds and Neglect

[LdiJ]

OMG...

Who are YOU in this scenario? Because if you don't know EXACTLY what the order says, we cannot offer real legal advice. And we're hesitant to offer it to someone who really has nothing to do with the case if you can't tell us EXACTLY waht it's going on.

Given what you've said, CP was having issues w/the child and chose to send the child to live with NCP. At the time CP made this decision, which was based on 'issues' with the child, the child was actually on meds and 'doing fine'.

Now, child is not on meds and is not doing 'fine' because child is having behavior issues.

DO you see how that makes no sense?

I see that the grades are different, and how the issues are clearly at school now... but meds alone won't necessarily explain that.

I'm also still interested in knowing HOW the child was diagnosed.

I actually understand what is going on.

The child was on meds, and doing fine at school. However, the ncp allowed the child alot of freedom and the cp did not, so the child started acting out at home, because the child wanted to live with the "fun" parent. Unfortunately the cp decided to let the child live with the "fun" parent.

Now the fun parent has taken the child off of the meds, the child is failing in school, and has been kicked out of cheerleading and sports.

Clearly the child not only needs the meds, but doesn't need to be living with the fun parent.

 

[ksjane]

I am not sure how a custody paper that is actually in the process of being modified is the sole decider whether or not I should report this as neglect? The child is supposed to be taking meds and is not because parent doesn't want to buy them. Child can not go buy them on their own. I guess it doesn't really matter though, my question was, is this neglect? If it is, I am required to report that, so, I guess that is what I will do, not sure what other options there are. Thanks everyone for your input, it is much appreciated.

 

[ksjane]

I actually understand what is going on.

The child was on meds, and doing fine at school. However, the ncp allowed the child alot of freedom and the cp did not, so the child started acting out at home, because the child wanted to live with the "fun" parent. Unfortunately the cp decided to let the child live with the "fun" parent.

Now the fun parent has taken the child off of the meds, the child is failing in school, and has been kicked out of cheerleading and sports.

Clearly the child not only needs the meds, but doesn't need to be living with the fun parent.

Wow, you couldn't be more right! I just feel that I need to report this. That was my whole question. Just wasn't sure.

 

[lealea1005]

OMG, I didn't realize you could offer real legal advice unless you were a real legal attorney? I thought this was FREE ADVICE? Did that change?
Anyway, is the order really that relevent? I don't know, that is why I am asking. If the child is supposed to be on meds and is not, isn't that the real issue here. Who I am, and HOW the child was diagnosed really doesn't seem as important (or relevent IMO) as the fact that the child is flunking school, and could potentially NOT be flunking school if meds were regulated. The child was diagnosed by a licensed therapist and has been on meds for 4 years, regulated and monitored. The behavior issues with CP are 'the typical--I HATE YOU--TEEN SYNDROME--yes, typical teen behavior issues, however, child was doing fine in school (which is very important) and now is not (which is still very important). I just found out there is a current request to modify custody, so at this point, noone knows how that will pan out.
My question is, should I report this as neglect as I am a mandated reporter?TIA

In what capacity are you a mandated reporter? T Are you the teacher? The therapist?

 

[ksjane]

In what capacity are you a mandated reporter? T Are you the teacher? The therapist?

Teachers Assistant/Paraeducator - its called different things in different places. Same thing though.

 

[LdiJ]

Teachers Assistant/Paraeducator - its called different things in different places. Same thing though.

Yes, in my opinion its neglect and you need to report it.

 

[VeronicaLodge]

Teachers Assistant/Paraeducator - its called different things in different places. Same thing though.

This information would have been helpful in the first post.

 

[ksjane]

This information would have been helpful in the first post.

Does ones occupation somehow change the fact that a child is being neglected?

 

[LdiJ]

Does ones occupation somehow change the fact that a child is being neglected?

No, but if you had opened your post with:

"I am a mandated reporter and I am trying to decide if something is child neglect or not...."

You would have gotten a clearer answer, faster...and it would have focused solely on whether or not that was child neglect.

 

[BL]

This post is full of baloney .

If you are as you say, a mandated reporter , you wouldn't be here on an interned forum asking us if not providing meds is neglect .

You could very well march to the schools administrative office to ask ( but you are suppose to be trained in what to report as neglect ) .

Go ahead and call in your concerns , but don't expect the report to be founded .

Why ? because these meds are not life and death meds .

excuse me for your well intentioned concerns , but using CPS to attempt you or the other parents end means are not appropriate .

Perhaps you better take the course again on mandated reporting .

 

[proud_parent]

Ditto what LdiJ remarked.

Your question, "What can be done about that?", implied that you wished to know what you should do next. The correct answer absolutely depends on your role in this scenario (and, had the question been posed by a parent, what the order states about legal custody).

After you make the call to CPS, consider returning here to thank CJane for continuing to ask probing questions despite your objections to their relevance, and also LdiJ for offering her advice. Their responses may have just spared you a misdemeanor criminal charge for failure to report.

 

[ksjane]

No, but if you had opened your post with:

"I am a mandated reporter and I am trying to decide if something is child neglect or not...."

You would have gotten a clearer answer, faster...and it would have focused solely on whether or not that was child neglect.

I seriously doubt that! The question was about neglect all along, my occupation does not change that. First, it depended on the custody order, now it doesn't because of my occupation? So, a person should only report neglect if they are mandated to do so?
Anyway, you are a member here, you know how it works. It doesn't matter who, what, when, where, why or how. Someone will always post the question the wrong way, someone will always misinterpret the posts and or comments, someone will always get bent out of shape about something, someone will always post too much information, and someone will always post not enough. It comes with the territory. That is what you get when you seek free advice (opinions) from anonymous people. I know that as well, sometimes it is just better to get a different perspective.

IMO, when it comes to children, EVERYONE should be mandated. We have a responsibility to children. IMO. Nonetheless, report has been made, I wasn't sure if it would do more harm than good for the child, hopefully not. Anyway, thanks everyone for your input. Have a good evening.
KS

 

[BL]

I wasn't sure if it would do more harm than good for the child, hopefully not.

So you question , as a mandated reporter your duties .

As I suspected , you are concerned .

That's a fancy way of so called professionals dealing with children , to abuse the system .

Everyone should be mandated ?


What a laugh .

That's like a Judge flipping a coin to decide which parent gets Christmas .

 

[ksjane]

This post is full of baloney .

If you are as you say, a mandated reporter , you wouldn't be here on an interned forum asking us if not providing meds is neglect .

You could very well march to the schools administrative office to ask ( but you are suppose to be trained in what to report as neglect ) .


Go ahead and call in your concerns , but don't expect the report to be founded .

Why ? because these meds are not life and death meds .

excuse me for your well intentioned concerns , but using CPS to attempt you or the other parents end means are not appropriate .

Perhaps you better take the course again on mandated reporting .

Not sure if its a budget issue or what but there is no training, or courses for that matter on mandated reporting. Not where I have worked, they say, "if you feel a child is in danger, as an employee, you are required to tell someone." That is that, was not aware of any training or courses, good to know though.
So, basically, in your opinion, a child not receiving meds is not neglect? Yet, another poster suggests I thank one of the posters for sparing me a misdemeanor criminal charge for not reporting. Interesting.
I am not sure what ends you speak of, I am concerned that a childs opportunities are being shortchanged. Period.

Anyway, as I said, a report has been made, AGAIN, thanks everyone for your input. Really no need to carry on, no need to blow a hard drive. Report has been made. Thanks again.
Have a good evening

 

[ksjane]

Heads!!!!!