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Pene:
"Were there ever any formal charges brought against step GP for abuse? (As in real, documented proof?)"
NO.
"And obviously your ex now presents as feeling comfortable letting these people have time with the kiddos alone."
Correct, so comfy in fact that the GF was the only person that showed up at one of our last divorce negotiation pow-wows years ago.
"Have the kids ever stated that their experience with these people is anything other than pleasant?"
Nothing out of the ordinary.
"As far as step GP filing a lawsuit against his step daughter...could be he didn't feel compelled to do so for several reasons. One of which would be that DESPITE the allegations, this is still his wife's child. And there are grandchildren involved now. You have to do what your comfort level is. Obviously these folks seem to be motivated to stay in the grandkid's lives despite the drama. And to be nice to you."
I can see that point, having not worked for 11 years, he definitely is not the motivated type.
I never said he had a legal obligation to do so, where did I say that?
"You seemed to expect it. After all it is in your divorce decree."
I can't follow your logic, although this speaks volumes about you, you based me thinking I had a legal right to the GF getting a PE bc I placed a desire to have one in a draft of 1 of our divorce settlements. Gotcha.
I asked for many things in the divorce settlement that aren't legally enforceable, and she denied ALL OF THEM. When I asked that she pay for 100% of either kids therapy IF said therapy was as a result of her now hubby being introduced into the kids lives 3 weeks into the separation, I knew that wasn't legal too. I still asked for it, she denied it. I expected it.
When I asked for an MRI to be done on her sister, who had been a chronic Meth Addict for 7 years, longer than the national average bc most DIE after 5 years of chronic use, for the purpose of proving that she has had brain damage do to current and prolonged drug use and therefore should NOT be EVER in charge of primarily caring for the kids, it got DENIED. I knew this wasn't legal. Guess what, said sister blacked out during one of the times she was 'watching' my kids on her sister's time. Not surprising at all. What is surprising is that she also DROVE both of my kids around and thankfully never BLACKED OUT while doing that.
No legal obligations, no kidding, i know, you assumed, you got it wrong, apology accepted. At least I have these non-legal requests actually documented, lawyers on both sides saw them and different progressions in the final document. I did my due diligence at most every turn.
"Oh really? I don't have sex with people with STDs. Maybe you do but I don't. No one has to get tests done. But I also don't have to have sex either. I have control over myself and no one else. I accept that fact. "
Exactly, I guess this is your long-winded way of saying you agree 100% with the analogy I just wrote, how hard was that?
Quote:I get all this. Okay? I 'asked him' for piece of mind.
"Piece of mind? Don't give those up too easily. You don't have any to spare. The proper phrase is PEACE OF MIND."
Apparently you aren't an Iron Maiden fan, nice low blow though.
"I don't play russian roulette. Any responsible gun owner knows to treat EVERY weapon as though it is loaded." Exactly, you're coming around.
"You didn't have to consent. Doesn't mean you could have stopped it." Exactly, I could not stop her from taking them even with a non-legal verbal or written dissent.
"You didn't consent but you gave it your blessing. YOu are full of double talk."
You are full of assumptions and revisionist history. Telling your kids to go have a good time and telling their mom she is making a big mistake and you don't want her to take them, is giving dissent to one and blessings to another.
I tell my kids to have fun at their mom's house every week. I don't want them to be there. Yet I tell them to have fun while they are there. Wow, see how those 2 can work together?
"Las Vegas is not hell on earth believe it or not."
Do you hear that trailing off sound? That was the last shred of credibility you had on giving advice about family parenting and trip destinations. Sin F'ing City is not hell on earth for children. It's an ADULT Freaking Playground woman, are nuts?!!! Have you been to the strip? Have you seen any documentaries? Do you have a pulse?
"How do you know they saw porn flicking scums?" They told me? First day on the phone, hey dad, guess what we say all over the strip? Egads, are you dumm or ignorant? Hoping the latter, if so, stop giving advice on LV for kids until you educate yourself.
"Did they bring you back a card?"
They needed a card as physical proof to the nudity, whinos, drunks, strippers, porno mags that are prevalent in Sin City, serious? Yknow they also Gamble there, right?
"Let me guess, you also don't like downtowns in any major city because they have strip clubs?"
LMAO, you are a hoot. Yes all major cities with strip clubs are very analagous to the largest adult playground in the world, to the city that never sleeps. As you obviously Don't Know, the strip is NOT DOWNTOWN either, which is typically referred to as a few blocks past the Fremont Experience.
"Your true ignorance and arrogance is showing."
If you can read arrogance in my posts, how do you fail to see you are pro-women in some of yours? Double Standard?
"You apparently haven't read a lot. NO one is said that the mom/woman is always the one that needs to be spared. I didn't say that here."
You don't explicitly say it, of course, you are much more subtle than that, but it's a negative to a great site.
"What I said is the CHILDREN deserve better than this. The children deserve to be spared. Give me a break. Grow up and again LEARN TO COMPREHEND. You have shown quite clearly how that is a shortfall of yours."
Children deserved to be spared in one hand, and LV is okay for the youth of America in the next hand. mkay. I understand most of what everyone else has been trying to spell out, except your text, which I'm no longer willing to decipher.
Look, let's agree that the next topic I post, you just won't be a part of? Since me and you obviously aren't contributing anything of substance to topics in which other dads could find a lot of useful info.
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Parents should remember two things: Love your kids more than you hate your ex (or soon to be ex) and when you have children the relationship with the other parent is until death parts you.