christmas bonus??

[faithnlve]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? vt.....What if your employer receives money from individuals to be used as christmas bonus's towards all the ones whom "care" for them but never disbursed the money? It is now way passed christmas even the new year. Thanks

 

[faithnlve]

My hubbies response to this was....once the money has been signed over by check to your employer he can do as he wishes, even if the employer sent them all a letter not to give to one caregiver but to send a check to him to be dispersed to all caregivers. The employer can give to whomever he wishes. I do not agree because I know that certain residents have only one or two who care for them. We at work are very confused on how to answer to the ones we care for when they ask how much we received? Which of course we have received nothing as of yet. thanks

 

[wyett717]

What type of employment situation is this? I assume you are a caregiver of some sort. Who were the individuals that gave the employer the money?

 

[justalayman]

who set up this situation?

did the employer solicit the funds?


who are the "individuals" and was the money given with the explicit intent of it being disbursed and was there any specific agreement at the time of the gift it be disbursed in any specific manner?



it sounds like your charges gave money to your employer. If so, you have no standing in this matter. It would be between the "individuals" and your employer. If your employer did not act as agreed, the "individuals" would have to be the folks making the commotion and yes, if there was a specific agreement, they would have the continue rights to demand that agreement be followed.

 

[faithnlve]

the individuals were people we cared for in a facility the employer owns. the employer sent letters to all residents asking them not to give out individually since it was unfair in his opinion to others involved in their care. So, instead of them giving what they wanted to which ever provider took care of them they send in an amount to the employer in which he claimed he would divide up among all careproviders and others involved in their care. There are 4 buildings in all in which this was requested. to this day noone has received anything. should we wait longer? and how do we approach this if nothing is received??

 

[CourtClerk]

When is your next payday? Maybe it'll come in your next check.

 

[justalayman]

like I said, you have nothing to do with this. It is an agreement between your charges and your employer.

should we wait longer?

What are you waiting for? You don;t have a dog in this fight. You are not a party to the agreeement and as such, have no place in this.

and how do we approach this if nothing is received??

You don't. You have no rights in this.

I know, the residents are asking you so, you answer them, honestly. It is up to them to say something to the person they gave the money to, not you.

 

[wyett717]

Are the residents vulnerable adults, such as elderly or disabled? If so, the employer has financially exploited them, and that is against the law. Even if they legally consented to the employer's suggestion, it's still possible that they were exploited because the funds were misappropriated.

OP, I would wait until the next paycheck and see if it's included there. If not, contact your State Ombudsman. The focus should be more on the whereabouts of the residents' money, and less about the selfishness of the Christmas bonus.

 

[faithnlve]

Are the residents vulnerable adults, such as elderly or disabled? If so, the employer has financially exploited them, and that is against the law. Even if they legally consented to the employer's suggestion, it's still possible that they were exploited because the funds were misappropriated.

OP, I would wait until the next paycheck and see if it's included there. If not, contact your State Ombudsman. The focus should be more on the whereabouts of the residents' money, and less about the selfishness of the Christmas bonus.

THANK YOU!! this is exactly why I am asking. I think this is wrong, and cannot just let it go. B\

 

[CourtClerk]

Just be prepared to look for a new job once they find out you filed a complaint. And before you start a post about that, yes, it will be legal.

 

[faithnlve]

Just be prepared to look for a new job once they find out you filed a complaint. And before you start a post about that, yes, it will be legal.

Really. Well, I agree with Wyatt....no matter how you look at it, it is exploiting vulnerable elderly when requesting any money given at Christmas time to be sent to "them" to give out to their caregivers and none of the caregivers or others get anything. How do you figure it legal??????!!

 

[justalayman]

Really. Well, I agree with Wyatt....no matter how you look at it, it is exploiting vulnerable elderly when requesting any money given at Christmas time to be sent to "them" to give out to their caregivers and none of the caregivers or others get anything. How do you figure it legal??????!!

what happened to the folks may not be legal but, again, you have no standing in attempting to make a claim to the money. If the folks are being taken advantage of, then deal with that but do not deal with it like you have a legal claim to the money because you don't.

I also do not believe you should go to the extent of making this some big official report until you are pretty sure the folks are getting ripped off.

The last thing you want to do is initiate this argument and then the owner simply pays out the cash and you look really bad. All he has to do is say he has been too busy to distribute the cash ans just got around to it.

You may get a couple bucks but I would bet you will also get the door against your backside as well.

Proceed with caution.

 

[wyett717]

Just be prepared to look for a new job once they find out you filed a complaint. And before you start a post about that, yes, it will be legal.

If OP is sure that this happened, she can file an abuse/exploitation complaint with the state Department of Human Services (or whoever licenses the employer), or the State Ombudsman as I said earlier. A confidential investigation will likely be completed, and the employer should have no indication of who initiated the complaint.

Again, this should be less about the actual Christmas bonus (because you may not ever see that), but more about mistreatment of vulnerable adults.

 

[justalayman]

=wyett717;2135248]If OP is sure that this happened

,she's not. She is guessing. Maybe right, maybe wrong.

A confidential investigation will likely be completed, and the employer should have no indication of who initiated the complaint.

the he goes on a headhunting expedition.

I would suggest a less "official" action unless OP is near positive the folks have been taken advantage of. There are ways to ask about this without being overly invasive or threatening. Something as simple as , "hey boss. Mrs. Jones keeps asking me if I recieved a bonus. She said something about giving some money to somebody in admin and they were going to spread it around. Any idea what she is talking about? What should I tell her?"

Again, this should be less about the actual Christmas bonus (because you may not ever see that), but more about mistreatment of vulnerable adults.

absolutely because OP has no legal claim to a Christmas bonus regardless of where it came from. OP has no right to even make a claim for the money. As stated previously, it is between the charges and the owner. Of course, if OP is aware of her charges being abused she should take action to rememdy but for some reason, I just wonder if the owners are actually taking the money for their own use or simply lax in spreading the wealth, or lazy.

 

[faithnlve]

,she's not. She is guessing. Maybe right, maybe wrong.

the he goes on a headhunting expedition.

I would suggest a less "official" action unless OP is near positive the folks have been taken advantage of. There are ways to ask about this without being overly invasive or threatening. Something as simple as , "hey boss. Mrs. Jones keeps asking me if I recieved a bonus. She said something about giving some money to somebody in admin and they were going to spread it around. Any idea what she is talking about? What should I tell her?"

absolutely because OP has no legal claim to a Christmas bonus regardless of where it came from. OP has no right to even make a claim for the money. As stated previously, it is between the charges and the owner. Of course, if OP is aware of her charges being abused she should take action to rememdy but for some reason, I just wonder if the owners are actually taking the money for their own use or simply lax in spreading the wealth, or lazy.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??????? DO YOU READ???? WHO SAID IT WAS BETWEEN THE CHARGES AND THE OWNER?? Please let me know.... I am so curious. I think you should answer only once you read what the original poster writes and not "others". Jeepers sorry but it becomes frustrating when looking for answers and someone replies not even based on what you write but what others write. Duh. Oh and by the way, you were the original poster claiming something about charge aides. Hope your not a defense attorney.....lol.