Wow, And you think I have mental problems?
Dude, you are unhinged. Psychotic rant, much?
The son is my friend, and he is a borderline genius, if anything. I've never said anything about them thinking anything about me, they don't even know me. (The attorneys?) I said the father initially led his attorney to believe that the son was preventing cleaning or the reason for the mess, most of the stuff is the dad's. It was easier for him just to throw his kid under the bus instead of taking responsibility. I don't think he did this to be malicious, rather it was just an easy explanation to get off of the subject. The son's attorney has never been to their house. Where do you get that the son is trying to bully the father? The son and the father are on the same page, although of course the son was pretty pissed about this guardianship thing, but even before he was notified, the father was already trying to retract it, not really realizing at the time the lawyer tricked him into agreeing to it, what it all meant.
Quote: "This thing that two different lawyers are wanting to get some legal ropes on, refusing to do for you."
You do realize that sentence makes no sense, right? Just saying.
What do I want? Advice to help them. I thought that's what this forum was for, not attacking people. they are good people, aren't they entitled to civil rights like everyone else? Personally, I don't care how messy somebody's house is, that doesn't mean you take their rights away, because it is their house, and should be their choice. the homeowner should be the only person that has a say in how messy his own house is, and the son who lives there needs to abide by the homeowner's wishes as long as he lives there. Not anyone else's.
Since when can a lawyer come in in decide he can make all of the decisions and set all of the rules in another person's home? Then literally try to make himself and controller of the kid that lives there? Literally taking away all of his rights? What's next, if the Dad starts disagreeing, the lawyer will try to get guardianship over the father?
To me, this is one of the most ridiculous and abusive things I have ever heard of, using guardianship to basically take control of people, and take their rights away, for any reason whatsoever. Even the worst hoarders that you see on TV, the law can't do anything about them. (And *force* is not the way to deal with hoarding problems, regardless. If you research the issue, which I'm sure you haven't, you approach hoarders with compassion and understanding, and the concern is directed more at the underlying psychological and emotional issues at hand). This is America, and it's their property, and people in this country can do whatever the hell they want on their property as long as it violates no laws, (which usually involves infringing upon others rights), as it should be.
If somebody tried to come to your house and tried to dictate how they wanted things to look inside your home, you would probably kick their ass out on the street for even suggesting it, telling them it's your home and you will do as you please. Because that is a civil right given to us under our constitution. Therefore, wouldn't you call this a civil rights violation of the most extreme kind? It's the principle, more than anything.