Stopped for speeding by a Robic Stopwatch.

[BigLar]

What is the name of your state? PA. Hello, I got nailed for speeding back in May. The officer stated I was going 77 in a 55. I requested a hearing in which it has been continued twice already. The first continuance was requested by the Officer. I was already at my hearing waiting and the Officer gave me the notice stating a continuance. At first it had my name as the requester for the continuance and then I got a correct copy about a month later stating it was the Officer that requested the first continuance. I got the correct copy of the first continuance with the second continuance that I was given. That continuance was requested by the Magistrate as the Magistrate is on sick leave at the present time. Also, the area where I was clocked at for speeding has all kinds of obstructions between the two white lines going across the road way. High grass and weeds and two wooden structures where signs have been previously placed. From where the officer was sitting at, it's nearly impossible for anybody to see the white lines across the road. The visibility of the lines themselves are in poor condition. They are hardly noticeable. Again, I have pled not guilty. Can anybody offer me some help on what to do?

 

[Zigner]

...it's nearly impossible for anybody to see the white lines across the road.

But not impossible.

 

[BigLar]

I stopped the day after I got my ticket and took pictures of the lines and theyre hardly noticeable standing right on top of them let alone sitting back in a field in an old driveway 100 feet away.

 

[Just Blue]

What is the name of your state? PA. Hello, I got nailed for speeding back in May. The officer stated I was going 77 in a 55. I requested a hearing in which it has been continued twice already. The first continuance was requested by the Officer. I was already at my hearing waiting and the Officer gave me the notice stating a continuance. At first it had my name as the requester for the continuance and then I got a correct copy about a month later stating it was the Officer that requested the first continuance. I got the correct copy of the first continuance with the second continuance that I was given. That continuance was requested by the Magistrate as the Magistrate is on sick leave at the present time. Also, the area where I was clocked at for speeding has all kinds of obstructions between the two white lines going across the road way. High grass and weeds and two wooden structures where signs have been previously placed. From where the officer was sitting at, it's nearly impossible for anybody to see the white lines across the road. The visibility of the lines themselves are in poor condition. They are hardly noticeable. Again, I have pled not guilty. Can anybody offer me some help on what to do?

BigLar, Why did you delete your other thread from late May or early June?

 

[HighwayMan]

So what was your speed at the time of the alleged violation?

They are hardly noticeable.

But they are, in fact, noticeable. Especially to a police officer who probably does the same enforcement at that location often.

Can anybody offer me some help on what to do?

Well, you seem unable to put any reasonable argument together so my suggestion is that you should go out and hire an attorney experienced in the court of record.

 

[FlyingRon]

There's not a shred of useful information in your post (other than it was ROBIC). What was the distance measured and the time?
As HWY points out, you go to court and say "I could hardly see the marks" will not trump the officers "I saw the car pass the marks" testimony.

 

[BigLar]

I went and took pictures of where the Officer was sitting and I went and stood on the each side of the road and took pictures. The road was even wet as it just got done raining before.

 

[BigLar]

The Officer put I went 76 in a 55 zone. The seconds timed say 2.10 seconds and distance was .039 miles. I checked it on a speed distance calculator and the miles are 66.86. Where does the Officer come up with 10 extra miles over?

 

[HighwayMan]

The road was even wet as it just got done raining before.

What possible relevance can THIS have?

 

[HighwayMan]

TWhere does the Officer come up with 10 extra miles over?

You'll have to ask him, not us.

 

[not2cleverRed]

There's not a shred of useful information in your post (other than it was ROBIC). What was the distance measured and the time?
As HWY points out, you go to court and say "I could hardly see the marks" will not trump the officers "I saw the car pass the marks" testimony.

That's because when he posted useful information we all disagreed with him and told him he had no case, so he deleted those threads.

There was an eerily similar thread by a different user as well that if I recall correctly, was deleted.

BigLar should pay for legal council. His attitude here has been offensive enough that I suspect he will cause himself trouble representing himself in court.

 

[Just Blue]

The Officer put I went 76 in a 55 zone. The seconds timed say 2.10 seconds and distance was .039 miles. I checked it on a speed distance calculator and the miles are 66.86. Where does the Officer come up with 10 extra miles over?

BigLar why did you delete your other threads? Please answer...

 

[FlyingRon]

Did I respond in the other thread, this is sounding familiar. Yes it should be 66 MPH, which is still in violation of the law.
However, I'd be also interested in knowing if it was really 0.039 miles or really 200 feet. That will give another 2% or so of error. This is a common mistake officers do when using ROBIC on very short distances (you can only put in two significant figures then).

 

[NeilTheCop]

You have already admitted you were speeding, so pay the fine, it will be cheaper in the long run.

 

[BigLar]

Hello. Been a while but here it is. I had my hearing and was found guilty. The Magistrate who usually is there was on sick leave and another Magistrate filled in. The Magistrate who filled in is known for finding people guilty because years ago before he became a Magistrate, he was Chief of Police for a small Township for 20 years near the city I'm from. The PO went first and presented their side. The PO had a copy of the certificate of accuracy for the speed device that was used. The PO did not have a certificate stating the speed timing device that was used was approved by the Bureau. The PO did not have a certificate or anything from the PA Bulletin stating the station was approved to calibrate the speed timing device that was used. I stated my side of it and I asked, If the PO had the original certificate issued for the accuracy and I stated that had a copy of PA vs. Cummings, and the PO said No. I asked if the PO had a certificate of approval for the speed timing device which I had a copy of and the PO stated No. I asked the PO if they had anything from the state or from the PA Bulletin which I had both copies of for the station as far as approval to certify and calibrate the speed timing device which was used and the PO stated No. Every time I asked a question, The PO would get more and more frustrated. The best part was the Magistrate had to stop the proceedings 3 times to tell the PO to calm down and that we were there for a summary trial and not to argue. It took everything in me not to laugh. I had obtained 2 pictures of the device that the PO used that included the front of the device and the make of the device and the serial number on the back of it. I asked the PO if the was the device used and the PO stated that they didn't know. I asked the PO about the distance on the citation that was .38 miles and asked if that was correct and the PO stated that it was. I said that in order for the PO to get a distance like that is the PO would have to look over a field, thru a house, a set of pine trees and an old stand where these 2 old people used to sell fruits and vegetables years ago. The PO got frustrated for the final time and then the Magistrate let loose. The whole proceeding was basically a joke and in the end, I was found guilty. I had 30 days to file an appeal at the Courthouse. I spent the $48.50 and filed on the 28th day. I had copies and pictures and everything else you could imagine pertaining to this case. My hearing was over a month away. My trial finally came about. I'm sitting in the Court room and in a matter of 15 minutes, the gentleman for the DA asked me 3 times what my name was and what was my appeal pertaining to. Finally it was my turn and the DA stated that they were not going to proceed any further as the PO didn't show up. I made a motion to dismiss the charge. All in all it was thrown out. It should have been thrown out at my hearing in front of the Magistrate. That's all.