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What is the name of your state? MI

I have primary custody of my 14 year old daughter. My ex husband is military living overseas in a non-combat situation and has had little to do with her in the last 8 years. The court order for parenting time does allow for a weekly phone call. Sometimes he calls, sometimes he doesn't and it's often not at the allotted time.
He's an NCO with over 12 years in so he brings home close to $7000 a month according to our Friend of the Court paperwork.

I work. My husband works. We have a younger special needs child and both children participate in sports, which I pay for in full. He pays his child support as required but doesn't contribute to anything else like sports, school supplies, birthdays, holidays and the like even though those are a 50/50 split in the orders.

For the last month my ex has been missing his phone time on and off because I'm at work or activites and we don't have a landline. So when my work schedule changed I asked that instead of getting mad at me because I'm busy and need my phone in case of an incident with my son, that he provide her a phone to ensure he can have his phone time in the event I'm not around. She has as already destroyed 3 phones previously. Two of them were purchased by me and one was a gift from my mother in law. Shattered them within the first month. We really aren't in a financial position to add another line either. Considering the phone he has, the car he drives, a $40 little prepaid wouldn't hurt him at all.

He sent me a nasty email today, flat out refusing and saying since I have custody it's my job to be home when he calls. Am I out of line for requesting he provide the phone? I'm not trying to alienate him from our daughter, but I have bills to pay and another child to consider. Do I need to file a motion to request he be responsible for providing the means of contact and initiating it?
 


not2cleverRed

Obvious Observer
Quick question: Is your daughter a klutz or she doing this on purpose in a rage?

You are in contempt. He has no way to reach her by phone at the allotted time, since you don't have a landline, she doesn't have a phone, and your cell phone is with you at work.

You are obligated to find a way to obey the court order. So find it. Maybe get a prepaid cell phone and glue it to the wall so she can't throw it against a wall or stomp on it. $40 seems cheap to avoid going to court...

As far as your new family: the court isn't going to care that you started a new family, so don't bring it up... unless you want to irritate a judge.

If your order says extracurricullars are to be split 50/50 and he hasn't been paying his share, why haven't you gone to court over that?
 

not2cleverRed

Obvious Observer
In any case, OP has to realize that,
1) Yes, she is in contempt,
2) Her younger child having special needs does not trump her older child's needs, and certainly does not obviate her obligation to follow a court order.
 

xylene

Senior Member
You can buy very durable phones still.

You need to get her a phone, not a phone she likes.

Walmart and many retailers sell Trak-Fone and other 'burner' phones: phone, charger and minutes for like 19 bucks.

Get a used phone and add minutes.

Honestly, it sound like you are trying to sabotage your ex's phone visits because you are mad about his low level of involvement.

Another tact would be to ask if he could help voluntarily with this expense - though I suspect given you and he's history that ship has sailed.
 

t74

Member
Do get his permission for her to participate in the activities you are expecting him to help fund? What about gifts? Are you buying expensive things a 14 YO thinks are essential and expecting him to pay rather than letting him spend what he feels is appropriate? He should be providing his own gifts to her. Parties are a luxury; if you want to give her one then you should pay for it. He can Amazon the gifts. Do you bother to provide him with her clothing sizes, current favorite colors or hints at what she might want that are feasible for him to send?

Is DD destroying phones because they aren't the fancy ones other kids have?

Many schools allow parents to pre-purchase recommended supplies. That is all you should expect him to contribute to - the essentials.

You are finding excuses for not complying with the court order yet are complaining about him not doing so I feel a sense of jealousy in his supposed income. I think I see a reason for his distance given your posting.
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
What is the name of your state? MI

I have primary custody of my 14 year old daughter. My ex husband is military living overseas in a non-combat situation and has had little to do with her in the last 8 years. The court order for parenting time does allow for a weekly phone call. Sometimes he calls, sometimes he doesn't and it's often not at the allotted time.
He's an NCO with over 12 years in so he brings home close to $7000 a month according to our Friend of the Court paperwork.

I work. My husband works. We have a younger special needs child and both children participate in sports, which I pay for in full. He pays his child support as required but doesn't contribute to anything else like sports, school supplies, birthdays, holidays and the like even though those are a 50/50 split in the orders.

For the last month my ex has been missing his phone time on and off because I'm at work or activites and we don't have a landline. So when my work schedule changed I asked that instead of getting mad at me because I'm busy and need my phone in case of an incident with my son, that he provide her a phone to ensure he can have his phone time in the event I'm not around. She has as already destroyed 3 phones previously. Two of them were purchased by me and one was a gift from my mother in law. Shattered them within the first month. We really aren't in a financial position to add another line either. Considering the phone he has, the car he drives, a $40 little prepaid wouldn't hurt him at all.

He sent me a nasty email today, flat out refusing and saying since I have custody it's my job to be home when he calls. Am I out of line for requesting he provide the phone? I'm not trying to alienate him from our daughter, but I have bills to pay and another child to consider. Do I need to file a motion to request he be responsible for providing the means of contact and initiating it?
He is right in one respect. You are supposed to make the child available for phone calls at the court ordered time. You do not have to be at home, but you do have to be with your daughter so that she can take the call. Or, you have to provide dad an alternate phone number where she can be reached. You are only required to do that at the time specified in the court order. You do not have to do it 24/7.
 

txmom512

Member
Why do your daughters phones keep breaking? Do they not have a phone case? I know our T-Mobile store staff get really antsy if you want to leave their store without a phone case for your phone. And seriously - you can get a really nice phone case for about $8 on Amazon. If they are in a case why would they be breaking???
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
Why do your daughters phones keep breaking? Do they not have a phone case? I know our T-Mobile store staff get really antsy if you want to leave their store without a phone case for your phone. And seriously - you can get a really nice phone case for about $8 on Amazon. If they are in a case why would they be breaking???
My 12 year old granddaughter has managed to break three phones that were in cases, including mine.
 

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