Did I miss proof??

[sitrokn]

What is the name of state? CA. Hey. For the city I live in I have called every other week to see if the city uses red light cameras. They said yes at first but I called again to see how I can find out. I kind of got caught but what didn't pin me as the main guy is that I don't call weekly. They said I won't get a ticket but I missed being able to record it on my phone; my phone would have shown the date. IF I was to record, how much would this have helped me? I'd like to keep some kind of record when I can for conversations. What scares me is that police can lie to you and while they may not have been police, that may have been part of the area. How likely is it do you think they lied?

 

[Zigner]

What is the name of state? CA. Hey. For the city I live in I have called every other week to see if the city uses red light cameras. They said yes at first but I called again to see how I can find out. I kind of got caught but what didn't pin me as the main guy is that I don't call weekly. They said I won't get a ticket but I missed being able to record it on my phone; my phone would have shown the date. IF I was to record, how much would this have helped me? I'd like to keep some kind of record when I can for conversations. What scares me is that police can lie to you and while they may not have been police, that may have been part of the area. How likely is it do you think they lied?

Considering that it's a crime in California to record a telephone conversation without the consent of all parties involved, I'd say that you dodged a bullet.

There's no way we can guess if "they" lied.

 

[Vjoey9229]

Considering that it's a crime in California to record a telephone conversation without the consent of all parties involved, I'd say that you dodged a bullet.

There's no way we can guess if "they" lied.

Wait to be clear let’s say I was talking on the phone and was recording with my other phone. That’s illegal??

 

[Zigner]

Wait to be clear let’s say I was talking on the phone and was recording with my other phone. That’s illegal??

Yes, that's a crime. It can rise to the level of a felony:

https://codes.findlaw.com/ca/penal-code/pen-sect-632.html

(a) A person who, intentionally and without the consent of all parties to a confidential communication, uses an electronic amplifying or recording device to eavesdrop upon or record the confidential communication, whether the communication is carried on among the parties in the presence of one another or by means of a telegraph, telephone, or other device, except a radio, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding two thousand five hundred dollars ($2,500) per violation, or imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or in the state prison, or by both that fine and imprisonment.  If the person has previously been convicted of a violation of this section or Section 631 , 632.5 , 632.6 , 632.7 , or 636 , the person shall be punished by a fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000) per violation, by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or in the state prison, or by both that fine and imprisonment.

 

[sitrokn]

Yes, that's a crime. It can rise to the level of a felony:

https://codes.findlaw.com/ca/penal-code/pen-sect-632.html

(a) A person who, intentionally and without the consent of all parties to a confidential communication, uses an electronic amplifying or recording device to eavesdrop upon or record the confidential communication, whether the communication is carried on among the parties in the presence of one another or by means of a telegraph, telephone, or other device, except a radio, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding two thousand five hundred dollars ($2,500) per violation, or imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or in the state prison, or by both that fine and imprisonment.  If the person has previously been convicted of a violation of this section or Section 631 , 632.5 , 632.6 , 632.7 , or 636 , the person shall be punished by a fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000) per violation, by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or in the state prison, or by both that fine and imprisonment.

Oh. Now to be clear does this include recording a person to person conversation too? Like if I wanted to record someone saying words to expose their
"true colors?" btw I am NOT saying anyone lied; I'm just saying that it's scary that it's possible.

 

[sitrokn]

Yes, that's a crime. It can rise to the level of a felony:

https://codes.findlaw.com/ca/penal-code/pen-sect-632.html

(a) A person who, intentionally and without the consent of all parties to a confidential communication, uses an electronic amplifying or recording device to eavesdrop upon or record the confidential communication, whether the communication is carried on among the parties in the presence of one another or by means of a telegraph, telephone, or other device, except a radio, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding two thousand five hundred dollars ($2,500) per violation, or imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or in the state prison, or by both that fine and imprisonment.  If the person has previously been convicted of a violation of this section or Section 631 , 632.5 , 632.6 , 632.7 , or 636 , the person shall be punished by a fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000) per violation, by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or in the state prison, or by both that fine and imprisonment.

Yes, that's a crime. It can rise to the level of a felony:

https://codes.findlaw.com/ca/penal-code/pen-sect-632.html

(a) A person who, intentionally and without the consent of all parties to a confidential communication, uses an electronic amplifying or recording device to eavesdrop upon or record the confidential communication, whether the communication is carried on among the parties in the presence of one another or by means of a telegraph, telephone, or other device, except a radio, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding two thousand five hundred dollars ($2,500) per violation, or imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or in the state prison, or by both that fine and imprisonment.  If the person has previously been convicted of a violation of this section or Section 631 , 632.5 , 632.6 , 632.7 , or 636 , the person shall be punished by a fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000) per violation, by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or in the state prison, or by both that fine and imprisonment.

Considering that it's a crime in California to record a telephone conversation without the consent of all parties involved, I'd say that you dodged a bullet.

There's no way we can guess if "they" lied.

Thus just wondering. I am supposed to receive a letter by 15 days after if I ran a light. If I don't reply back to it, won't I get another letter after another 15 days?? So far I've not received anything but I just want to be clear.

 

[HighwayMan]

I kind of got caught but what didn't pin me as the main guy is that I don't call weekly

Caught doing what? Passing a red light? Your post doesn't make much sense.

 

[FlyingRon]

Oh. Now to be clear does this include recording a person to person conversation too? Like if I wanted to record someone saying words to expose their
"true colors?" btw I am NOT saying anyone lied; I'm just saying that it's scary that it's possible.

You can not in the state of California record a conversation without consent of all parties. It matters not what your motivations are. In fact, it doesn't even need to be on the phone.

 

[sitrokn]

Yes, that's a crime. It can rise to the level of a felony:

https://codes.findlaw.com/ca/penal-code/pen-sect-632.html

(a) A person who, intentionally and without the consent of all parties to a confidential communication, uses an electronic amplifying or recording device to eavesdrop upon or record the confidential communication, whether the communication is carried on among the parties in the presence of one another or by means of a telegraph, telephone, or other device, except a radio, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding two thousand five hundred dollars ($2,500) per violation, or imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or in the state prison, or by both that fine and imprisonment.  If the person has previously been convicted of a violation of this section or Section 631 , 632.5 , 632.6 , 632.7 , or 636 , the person shall be punished by a fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000) per violation, by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or in the state prison, or by both that fine and imprisonment.

Other question: Wait so for the registered owner, would it be sent to the address based on my registration (wrong address I'm mailing to fix) or my driver kicense number. They'll have to run my license and it would show my license plate with correct address as the owner. I read what you said. I just want to be clear I understood it right so please answer a final time and I'll never post on this site again: you said it's sent to the owner of the vehicle. Will the address be based on my driver license address or license plate address?

 

[Zigner]

Other question: Wait so for the registered owner, would it be sent to the address based on my registration (wrong address I'm mailing to fix) or my driver kicense number. They'll have to run my license and it would show my license plate with correct address as the owner. I read what you said. I just want to be clear I understood it right so please answer a final time and I'll never post on this site again: you said it's sent to the owner of the vehicle. Will the address be based on my driver license address or license plate address?

I said that it's sent to the registered owner at the address that the car is registered at.

 

[Zigner]

For others who may be confused - the OP started another thread and was asked to continue here so that everything stays in the same thread.

 

[CdwJava]

You can not in the state of California record a conversation without consent of all parties. It matters not what your motivations are. In fact, it doesn't even need to be on the phone.

If the R/P called the police department, it was almost certainly on a recorded line. Often this is verified by a background tone.

 

[CdwJava]

Other question: Wait so for the registered owner, would it be sent to the address based on my registration (wrong address I'm mailing to fix) or my driver kicense number. They'll have to run my license and it would show my license plate with correct address as the owner. I read what you said. I just want to be clear I understood it right so please answer a final time and I'll never post on this site again: you said it's sent to the owner of the vehicle. Will the address be based on my driver license address or license plate address?

If you run a red light and it is captured via camera, a technician and/or an officer will attempt to identify the driver (you). If you are identified, a CITATION (notice to appear) will be sent to the address on your license. If you were not identified, then a notice requesting the registered owner identify the driver (NOT a citation) will be sent to the address of the registered owner of the vehicle.