Landlord keeps hot water heater on a timer

[zddoodah]

Once again: "what type of residence are you in (room in someone's house, apartment, SFR, etc.)?" "Landlord lives adjacent to me" doesn't answer that question.

 

[Zigner]

Yes, LL pays for hot water. The timer is supposedly a money-saving measure.

The joke's on him. It's going to take MORE money to re-heat cold(er) water.

 

[PayrollHRGuy]

The joke's on him. It's going to take MORE money to re-heat cold(er) water.

That pesky thermodynamics.

 

[adjusterjack]

The joke's on him. It's going to take MORE money to re-heat cold(er) water.

I was going to point that out, too.

 

[onelse]

Once again: "what type of residence are you in (room in someone's house, apartment, SFR, etc.)?" "Landlord lives adjacent to me" doesn't answer that question.

It's a house and I'm in the converted garage, so we share a common wall, but landlord is on far side of their place.

 

[Zigner]

It's a house and I'm in the converted garage, so we share a common wall, but landlord is on far side of their place.

I'd bet dollars to donuts that it's not a legal rental in the first place.

 

[Denac42896]

My landlord has the hot water heater on a timer and is insistent it remain this way. This is a new phenomena to me. Does anyone have feedback? Can this be rightfully done by a landlord? It's really not much of an issue, but a curious topic.

I think it should not be that way

 

[Zigner]

I think it should not be that way

Well, that settles it then!

 

[onelse]

Well, that settles it then!

I agree it is basically flawed thinking.

 

[not2cleverRed]

That pesky thermodynamics.

A lot of people seem to have problems with thermodynamics.

Heat Transfer seems to stymie the same folks.

Perhaps the landlord should invest in a tankless water heater.

 

[onelse]

A lot of people seem to have problems with thermodynamics.

Heat Transfer seems to stymie the same folks.

Perhaps the landlord should invest in a tank-less water heater.

To the LL's credit, they wanted to install a tank-less one, but would have had to do an electrical upgrade - so the electrician determined. Will the timer really save on $, or is this more of an illusion? As others have said, it seems like it would initially take more juice to heat up the not-as-hot water from the timer cycle in the morning, and neutralize any potential financial benefits or savings. Just my hunch...

 

[Zigner]

To the LL's credit, they wanted to install a tank-less one, but would have had to do an electrical upgrade - so the electrician determined. Will the timer really save on $, or is this more of an illusion? As others have said, it seems like it would initially take more juice to heat up the not-as-hot water from the timer cycle in the morning, and neutralize any potential financial benefits or savings. Just my hunch...

At BEST, it will take the same energy...and that's in a perfect system.

 

[not2cleverRed]

To the LL's credit, they wanted to install a tank-less one, but would have had to do an electrical upgrade - so the electrician determined. Will the timer really save on $, or is this more of an illusion? As others have said, it seems like it would initially take more juice to heat up the not-as-hot water from the timer cycle in the morning, and neutralize any potential financial benefits or savings. Just my hunch...

I believe your hunch has merit.

My dad used to manually turn off the water heater every night. He failed thermodynamics twice, and only passed the 3rd time because he promised to never take another course having baby thermodynamics as a prereq.

(It's really not that hard. I think he just has a mental block.)

Now that he is older, he keeps the water heater and furnace on.

 

[FarmerJ]

Most tankless 220 Volt electric hot water heaters have to be on a minimum of a 40 amp circuit and if its a standard tank now it could be on a 220 20amp breaker or a 30 amp breaker so it would need new wiring to handle electric on demand, SO if your curious call the electric utility and ask them if they have OFF peak services for hot water heating and if they do then to mail it to you and then you hand it to your LL . other wise your LL cant deny you water that is hot enough to satisfy your city ordinances and your city can tell you what the magic number of degrees are OR you can let them tell your LL when they come out to look at the set up when you complain to them.