Once again, I am not addressing in this thread when, if ever, it
should be ok to grant grandparent visitation. That is a matter of opinion on which even reasonable minds can differ. More to the point, my view of it doesn’t matter in addressing the issue of what the law currently says about granting visitation to grandparents (or any other person who is not the parent). That’s what this thread is to address, not what the law should be. I respect your views and those expressed by others in this thread. I may even agree with some of those opinions. But it is just not relevant to the OP’s questions what my opinion is about grandparent visitation.
And, btw, it isn’t going to do much good to try to convince me to see it one way or the other. So if that is the goal of anyone in this thread, you can save yourself the effort on that. I’m not getting into how things
should be in this thread.