3 Questions

[1jr2ps]

What is the name of your state? Missouri

What is the name of your state? Missouri

1. If a child is raped, another is molested, the investigator handed over the case to the prosecutor... How long would you wait for charges before throwing a fit?

2. Can they file charges against a man who is in the hospital from a self-inflicted gunshot wound?

3. Does a jury trial prevent a prosecutor from filing charges?

 

[garrula lingua]

Without more detail, no one can answer you.


....you're asking about charges being filed AFTER a jury trial (what, on the same offenses ?)

 

[StickyFingers]

What is the name of your state? Missouri

What is the name of your state? Missouri

1. If a child is raped, another is molested, the investigator handed over the case to the prosecutor... How long would you wait for charges before throwing a fit?

2. Can they file charges against a man who is in the hospital from a self-inflicted gunshot wound?

3. Does a jury trial prevent a prosecutor from filing charges?

Sorry...But we need the WHOLE story...Hard to answer when the questions are out of context.

 

[1jr2ps]

Sorry

I apologize, I was accused of lying last time I posted detail, so I will keep it brief (eventhough I can provide links to the "proof" of my story):

No charges filed, I know the rape and molestation happened because I am the girl's father and there is plenty of proof. The guy who did it attempted suicide and admitted his guilt in his place of work. The girl's are 13. The guy is in the hospital. Found out since he hit the news one morning that my girls are not the only ones he's messed with.

Official charges are delayed because every week the detective tells me the prosocutor is in a jury trial. About 3 weeks now. If they filed charges and picked him up before, the suicide attempt could have been avoided.

 

[CdwJava]

1. If a child is raped, another is molested, the investigator handed over the case to the prosecutor... How long would you wait for charges before throwing a fit?

That depends ... if I was the father, I'd probably wait 20 minutes. If I was the detective, I would probably know what the delay is - or I would find out.

Even supposedly simple-to-solve sex crimes can take time to build. You say that there is plenty of evidence, but what YOU think is evidence, and what the court might be able to consider as real evidence, could be different things.

2. Can they file charges against a man who is in the hospital from a self-inflicted gunshot wound?

Sure they can. I've had suspects arraigned in the CCU by closed circuit camera.

3. Does a jury trial prevent a prosecutor from filing charges?

No. But once charges are filed he has to be ready for the arraignment and then the prelim. He can't be in two places at once. It could also be that he has not had the time to prepare the proper paperwork.

The fact of the matter is that the suspect is now in the hospital. He also is apparently no longer a threat to your daughter so there is not necessarily a vital need to rush into court. If there is sufficient evidence, they can seek a warrant and hook him up before he gets out of the hospital. But, if they arrest him right now, guess who pays for his hospital stay and re-hab? Yep! The taxpayers! So, instead of putting themselves on the hook for his hospital bills they might just be playing the fiscally prudent route of letting his estate take on the bill.

If they have the evidence, they will charge him when the time is right. But if he is on feeding tubes and receiving expensive treatments, why rush to take on the bill?

- Carl

 

[1jr2ps]

Thank you

Well... I have tried to be calm about the whole damn thing and have been told about the taxpayers paying his bills if they arrest him now.

I just want to be SURE this guy is going to pay. I want to sleep. I want to quit calling everyone trying to get every last drop of proof out there.

I want the charges filed. Can I hire an attorney to assist? I have NO CONFIDENCE.

I will feel relieved when he is not going to get 30 days of counselling. He ****ed up my kid's childhood. I HATE HIM!

This suicide attempt will most likely get him sympathy.

His dad's a cop too. THAT'S why I want the charges to come out.

He will commit assisted suicide if something stupid happens.

 

[CdwJava]

Well... I have tried to be calm about the whole damn thing and have been told about the taxpayers paying his bills if they arrest him now.

And that is a very valid excuse. Cities and counties have to run on budgets, and paying $10,000 per day for a guy they don't have to is something that no county wants to do. Keep in mind that the money would have to come from somewhere ... perhaps fewer firefighters, teachers, or deputies next year just to get one guy arraigned before his time.

I just want to be SURE this guy is going to pay. I want to sleep. I want to quit calling everyone trying to get every last drop of proof out there.

I do understand. But it does not sound like he is going anywhere soon.

I want the charges filed. Can I hire an attorney to assist? I have NO CONFIDENCE.

A private attorney would be able to do nothing to push the matter through. He would, however, very likely succeed in pissing off the prosecutor.

If they have the evidence, they WILL go after the guy when they can. NO ONE wants to let a child molestor go free! But, as I said, they have to be able to PROVE their case in court before they do go forward. If they have all they need, then it could be that they are waiting for the suspect to get healthy again or for the DA to have his schedule cleared up.

I will feel relieved when he is not going to get 30 days of counselling. He ****ed up my kid's childhood. I HATE HIM!

I don't blame you. But bear in mind that it is not over yet. if it goes to trial she will have to take the stand and go through it all again ... and its likely she will be attacked, her friends will be attacked, her parents (you) will be attacked, etc. It will likely get worse before he goes away. If he pleads, however, then there would be no need for a trial.

Again, they need enough evidence to convict. If they have that then the hold up is simply one of logistics or common sense finances.

This suicide attempt will most likely get him sympathy.

From whom? If he did what you think he did, I'm disappointed that he failed. I think the only sympathy that he'll generate is that for the firemen and medics who had to tear themselves away from a good meal to go keep him alive.

His dad's a cop too. THAT'S why I want the charges to come out.

You want the charges to come out because his dad's a cop? What's that got to do with it?

Would it make a difference if his dad was an engineer? A teacher? A gardener? Who CARES what his dad does or did for a living? That bears no relevance to the situation.

He will commit assisted suicide if something stupid happens.

In my state we call that murder. But, if he commits suicide, he saves the state the cost of a trial and an incarceration.

Another thing to consider: How messed up is he from the suicide attempt? Is he brain dead or almost vegetative? Is he aware? If he is too messed up he may no longer be capable of standing trial.

- Carl

 

[1jr2ps]

Ha

I think I might sleep with a smile on my face tonight... dreaming...

Thanks!

I think I can wait another week or two.

P.S. The Child Advocate called and told me, before the suicide attempt, that his dad was trying to get him out of it. I have it recorded.

 

[CdwJava]

I think I might sleep with a smile on my face tonight... dreaming...

Thanks!

Glad I could help.

P.S. The Child Advocate called and told me, before the suicide attempt, that his dad was trying to get him out of it. I have it recorded.

That can mean almost anything.

Dad could have been coming up with viable defenses, excuses, maybe even saying "he's suffered enough" ... but parents do that. I can understand it, even if I might not think I would do it in the same situation. It's one thing to put on a vigorous defense for your child - it's another thing entirely to use your position to try to influence things improperly or unlawfully.

- Carl

 

[stealth2]

I just want to be SURE this guy is going to pay. I want to sleep. I want to quit calling everyone trying to get every last drop of proof out there.

One thing I'd be cautious of is getting so involved in the "investigative" part of things (I do understand your desire, though), that you muck up the legitimate investigation.