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A title is in my name but my mom bought it who owns the car? Please read the details

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T0796238027

Junior Member
Arizona, A title of a car is in my name but my mother bought it for herself but couldn't put it in her name because she didn't want SSI to know she had a vehicle. She wants the title. Well she owes me a lot of money and I told her she will get the title signed over once she pays me the money she owes me, if her and I got to court can I get in trouble because I knew she was lying to ssi and be an accessory, also she said she is going to get me on extortion unless I give her the title. Can you please help me?
 


LdiJ

Senior Member
Arizona, A title of a car is in my name but my mother bought it for herself but couldn't put it in her name because she didn't want SSI to know she had a vehicle. She wants the title. Well she owes me a lot of money and I told her she will get the title signed over once she pays me the money she owes me, if her and I got to court can I get in trouble because I knew she was lying to ssi and be an accessory, also she said she is going to get me on extortion unless I give her the title. Can you please help me?
If your mother is on SSI it is not realistic for you to expect her to pay you back money that you have given to her. Someone on SSI really does not have enough money to have even a bare bones existence, let alone being able to pay someone lump sums of money.

I do not understand why your mother did not want SSI to know that she owns a vehicle, since people on SSI are not forbidden to own vehicles, or houses even.

You are committing extortion. You are holding onto something that morally belongs to your mother with the threat of not giving it back to her unless she gives you money.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
You are committing extortion. You are holding onto something that morally belongs to your mother with the threat of not giving it back to her unless she gives you money.
But...since we're on a legal site, we'd have to point out that the OP is NOT committing extortion, legally speaking.

ETA: http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/13/01804.htm
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
If your mother is on SSI it is not realistic for you to expect her to pay you back money that you have given to her. Someone on SSI really does not have enough money to have even a bare bones existence, let alone being able to pay someone lump sums of money.

I do not understand why your mother did not want SSI to know that she owns a vehicle, since people on SSI are not forbidden to own vehicles, or houses even.

You are committing extortion. You are holding onto something that morally belongs to your mother with the threat of not giving it back to her unless she gives you money.
Actually no. And if mom takes him to court, she has unclean hands and will NOT get anything. That is what happens when someone tries to defraud the government and hide assets. Legally the car belongs to OP. And this is a legal site.
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
Actually no. And if mom takes him to court, she has unclean hands and will NOT get anything. That is what happens when someone tries to defraud the government and hide assets. Legally the car belongs to OP. And this is a legal site.
Well, she really doesn't have unclean hands because she did not actually defraud the government, she defrauded herself. Someone on SSI is allowed to own a car. The fact that she did not realize that makes her ignorant rather that someone playing the system.

I happen to think that its morally reprehensible for a child to treat their disabled parent the way that the OP is treating his/her disabled parent. However, that is just my personal opinion. I do agree that he is likely not committing criminal extortion, but its extortion none the less.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
I do agree that he is likely not committing criminal extortion, but its extortion none the less.
Well, since I posted a link to the statute that defines extortion in AZ, I think we can all agree that it's not committing criminal extortion ;)
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Well, she really doesn't have unclean hands because she did not actually defraud the government, she defrauded herself. Someone on SSI is allowed to own a car. The fact that she did not realize that makes her ignorant rather that someone playing the system.

I happen to think that its morally reprehensible for a child to treat their disabled parent the way that the OP is treating his/her disabled parent. However, that is just my personal opinion. I do agree that he is likely not committing criminal extortion, but its extortion none the less.
She wanted to OP to own the car in his name however because she thought she could defraud the government. Therefore, yes, she has unclean hands. Her intent was to defraud the government. The fact that it backfired means very little. She doesn't own the car and has no right to it. The car owns to the person on the title.
 

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