Abused 15-year-old can't move out

[KaiowaX]

What is the name of your state (Oregon)?

Okay, I'm not talking about myself, I'm talking about a young girl of 15 I know. She wants to move out of her parents and just be out of their power, and move to California to live with a friend. She tried to get emancipated, but it was rejected for unknown reasons, though I bet I can assume what they were.
1. She was 15 at the time she submitted the application.
2. She could not financially support herself.
3. She was living with her mother at the time so submission.

Could she submit an application for emancipation at a later time with financial support and when she's 16?

Thank you for your help, and I may have more questions depending on what comments I get. Tags used in this involve past experiences with her, but I want to focus on this possibility first.

 

[Isis1]

She has the legal right to submit an application every week if she wants to. Apparently a judge found no reason for an emancipation to occur. If she is actually being abused as opposed to not liking to do her homework or house chores, she needs to speak to her school counselor.

 

[Proserpina]

What is the name of your state (Oregon)?

Okay, I'm not talking about myself, I'm talking about a young girl of 15 I know. She wants to move out of her parents and just be out of their power, and move to California to live with a friend. She tried to get emancipated, but it was rejected for unknown reasons, though I bet I can assume what they were.
1. She was 15 at the time she submitted the application.
2. She could not financially support herself.
3. She was living with her mother at the time so submission.

Could she submit an application for emancipation at a later time with financial support and when she's 16?

Thank you for your help, and I may have more questions depending on what comments I get. Tags used in this involve past experiences with her, but I want to focus on this possibility first.

Sure, she can petition again - but she'll be denied again unless she can show a history of supporting herself. The court will not emancipate a 16 year old so they can go and live with a friend.

Does she actually understand what emancipation entails and its function?

If she is truly being abused she should contact either CPS or the police, and/or speak with a school counselor.

 

[CdwJava]

Okay, I'm not talking about myself, I'm talking about a young girl of 15 I know. She wants to move out of her parents and just be out of their power, and move to California to live with a friend. She tried to get emancipated, but it was rejected for unknown reasons, though I bet I can assume what they were.
1. She was 15 at the time she submitted the application.
2. She could not financially support herself.
3. She was living with her mother at the time so submission.

Could she submit an application for emancipation at a later time with financial support and when she's 16?

Thank you for your help, and I may have more questions depending on what comments I get. Tags used in this involve past experiences with her, but I want to focus on this possibility first.

This wouldn't happen to be a boyfriend she wants to live with, woul dit?

Unless things change drastically she will fail next time, too.

If she is really being abused (sexually or physically assaulted, or severe neglect to the point her health is at risk) then the authorities should be notified. I suspect it is simply that she does not like her mother's rules. This is insufficient grounds to get emancipated.

If either of her parents disagree with emancipation, it is not likely to happen. The court will also evaluate whether or not the minor is capable of supporting herself and continuing in school ... not living with a friend or going on welfare. Emancipation is not a chance to have a cool sleepover.

 

[KaiowaX]

She has the legal right to submit an application every week if she wants to. Apparently a judge found no reason for an emancipation to occur. If she is actually being abused as opposed to not liking to do her homework or house chores, she needs to speak to her school counselor.

I'm pretty sure that her mother bringing home random guys home (both drunk) and having loud sex while she and her siblings can hear is some form of abuse or neglect.

Sure, she can petition again - but she'll be denied again unless she can show a history of supporting herself. The court will not emancipate a 16 year old so they can go and live with a friend.

Does she actually understand what emancipation entails and its function?

If she is truly being abused she should contact either CPS or the police, and/or speak with a school counselor.

What would pass as supporting herself, having a job or are there other requirements, such as paying for everything herself? I have the number for child support for her to call if anything drastic happens again.

This wouldn't happen to be a boyfriend she wants to live with, would it?

Unless things change drastically she will fail next time, too.

If she is really being abused (sexually or physically assaulted, or severe neglect to the point her health is at risk) then the authorities should be notified. I suspect it is simply that she does not like her mother's rules. This is insufficient grounds to get emancipated.

If either of her parents disagree with emancipation, it is not likely to happen. The court will also evaluate whether or not the minor is capable of supporting herself and continuing in school ... not living with a friend or going on welfare. Emancipation is not a chance to have a cool sleepover.

It would, but we're not looking at this as an opportunity to have a rockin' good time. She has talked to numerous counselors before about this neglect as well as past sexual abuse from her step-father from when she was 13 to 15. That's legally squared away, but she's gotten only insufficient psychological help from the counselors up there, as she still cuts and breaks down easily.

But from what I got from this is just a reiteration of requirements needed to have an emancipation, and while I should have known that, I do find it helpful. Would just getting a job show the ability to support herself or what else would she have to show?

 

[Isis1]

Just having a FULL time job will not cut it. She will need to BE paying for her own place (not living with a relative or friend) pay her own utilities, AND prove she can still graduate.

Mom having sex is not abuse. Forcing her daughter to watch, is. Daughter can simply put on ear phones to drown out noise. Same if I'm in a motel and next door, the neighbors are going at it.

If your friend is cutting, YOU need to walk your happy butt to the school counselor and say something.

 

[CdwJava]

It would, but we're not looking at this as an opportunity to have a rockin' good time.

So, are you the boyfriend? Or are you the 15 year old girl posing as a "friend?"

How old is the boyfriend (you)?

Understand that in CA she and the boyfriend would not legally be able to shack up together.

She has talked to numerous counselors before about this neglect as well as past sexual abuse from her step-father from when she was 13 to 15. That's legally squared away,

What does that mean? Have the police investigated? Has child services been involved is the girl or the family under the supervision of a social worker as a result?

Such accusations are a dime a dozen, but some happen to be true. And all must be reported. Since I have never heard the term "legally squared away" with regards to any CPS or law enforcement closure of a file, I am curious just what that means to you.

but she's gotten only insufficient psychological help from the counselors up there, as she still cuts and breaks down easily.

Then she needs more help, not to move in with her boyfriend. Moving to another state, away from family and most her friends (her support system) to live under the thrall of a boyfriend is NOT going to be helpful.

But from what I got from this is just a reiteration of requirements needed to have an emancipation, and while I should have known that, I do find it helpful. Would just getting a job show the ability to support herself or what else would she have to show?

Ultimately she needs to convince a judge that emancipation is in her best interest (after she turns 16) and that she can support herself AND finish school without the aid of others. If either of her parents object, she can pretty much kiss emancipation goodbye unless the state removes her from mom's care. Mom's amorous trysts aside, nothing you have posted would seem to indicate that living with mom is somehow a danger to her.

And if she IS cutting herself, then the authorities need to know ASAP so they can get her aid. And that aid will NOT be in the form of emancipation. Emancipation is not achieved by tantrums, but by responsibility and maturity.

 

[cbg]

And here's part of what she's going to need (in addition to turning 16 and having her parent(s) permission:

* A budget, showing her expenses, her earnings, and how the two match up (as in "I earn xxx.xx per week, of which xx.xx goes to rent, xx.xx to utilities, xx.xx to food, etc.) Note that I am not using the future tense, but the present. Not, I will be paying, or I can pay, but I AM paying.

* Rent receipts and utility bills and pay stubs all in her name, to back up what she is saying

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that the purpose of emancipation is to allow teens to leave home. It is not, and never has been. The purpose of emancipation is to allow legal protections to those teens who are ALREADY self-supporting.

Self supporting does not, in any state, mean living with your boyfriend/girlfriend/his or her family.

 

[mistoffolees]

I'm pretty sure that her mother bringing home random guys home (both drunk) and having loud sex while she and her siblings can hear is some form of abuse or neglect.

Tacky, tasteless, inconsiderate, and crappy parenting? Sure.

Abuse or neglect? I doubt it.

But if she wants to claim that it's abuse, she should talk to her school counselor or call CPS and tell them what's going on. If there's really abuse, they will take action.