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NITM

Member
What is the name of your state? CA

After reading the other "teenager visitation" post, it brought to mind another question, as my husband (NCP) is in the same situation. His son is now 15.

Not sure if you recall my other posts complaining how CP is always trying to independently change and be in total control of the visitation orders. The entire purpose of CP's frequent nasty correspondence is trying to make NCP feel as though he is a HORRIBLE parent if he doesn't let teenager forfeit visitations whenever he feels like it, if he has other plans with friends, etc., not only now, but especially after will be "given" a car on a silver platter when he turns 16 (even though he's been failing 2-3 classes every report card). NCP is almost starting to fall for her guilt trips too, as she conveys to him that this is what the court would feel is right. So the court would frown on CP trying to push this issue? It doesn't make NCP the worst parent in the world if he doesn't forfeit visits to accommodate his son's social schedule now that he's a teenager? CP claims this is ALL son's idea, but when NCP asks son, he claims that is not true and makes the "cuckoo" sign when referring to his mother (CP).

Also, once the son has his own car, etc., and chooses not to show up for a visit, will NCP be penalized as far as paying more child support for seeing his son a lesser percentage of time, even though it was the son's choice? We know this is the whole purpose of CP trying to lessen/eliminate visitation. Every single line of her ridiculous visitation "proposals" mailed to our home ends with "pursuant to child's schedule" written after it (which she would be dictating).

Am I correct in understanding now that NCP should stick to his guns and not allow the boy to make these visitation decisions until he's 18?:confused:
 


LdiJ

Senior Member
Yes, dad should stick to his guns (with reasonable flexibility for things that are truly important to the child) until the child is 18. In my opinion the reasonable flexibility is important with a teenager, otherwise resentments can develope, which could cause the child to totally avoid the ncp after they turn age 18. You don't want the child to view age 18 as "freedom from dad day".

Hell hath no fury like a teen who has to miss homecoming, or the prom, or his best friend's or girlfriend's birthday party or whatever other event is truly important to the child.
 

NITM

Member
I agree, and my husband has always been very flexible for such occasions. However, CP has a regular habit of making plans during NCP's visitation times and then entices their son with these plans. Sometimes NCP will agree to swap, but CP takes advantage of it, and when NCP doesn't agree to swap, CP flies off the handle in an angry tirade in front of the boy. I also feel that CP will never learn to make plans on her OWN visitation time that she would like their son to attend if NCP complies with this all the time. She even tried to pull it again this Labor Day weekend, but husband said no. CP will have son next year on Labor Day, so she should save her plans for then.

Am I wrong to believe that if CP is making nice vacation plans during NCP's visitation times, that she should just keep her mouth shut about it to the boy, because of course, he'll want to go? It just doesn't seem right to me. I would never do that to my son.
 

casa

Senior Member
NITM said:
I agree, and my husband has always been very flexible for such occasions. However, CP has a regular habit of making plans during NCP's visitation times and then entices their son with these plans. Sometimes NCP will agree to swap, but CP takes advantage of it, and when NCP doesn't agree to swap, CP flies off the handle in an angry tirade in front of the boy. I also feel that CP will never learn to make plans on her OWN visitation time that she would like their son to attend if NCP complies with this all the time. She even tried to pull it again this Labor Day weekend, but husband said no. CP will have son next year on Labor Day, so she should save her plans for then.

Am I wrong to believe that if CP is making nice vacation plans during NCP's visitation times, that she should just keep her mouth shut about it to the boy, because of course, he'll want to go? It just doesn't seem right to me. I would never do that to my son.
It isn't 'Right' but unfortunately, there isn't much the NCP can do in that situation. The son is 15 and so it's only a matter of time before he's legally not obligated to be entwined in CP's tentacles. ;)
 

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