Arizona took money from my bank, no warning no notice.

[jage]

In 2007 we lived in Arizona for one year and filed appropriate state taxes. We then moved away.
In 2010 we got a letter saying we owed several hundred for 2008 Arizona State taxes. We provided information to the fact that we did not reside in Arizona for any part of 2008 and the claim was withdrawn.
Today I got a letter from my bank saying Arizona had taken 100.25 from our account, and the bank took a 100 "service fee"

The money is really gone, right out of savings (first I thought "scam")
The paperwork has my SSN.
The paperwork is from the bank and has no explanation of what the 100.25 is for, or why this happened. The only clue is it's from the Az dept of revenue.
The paperwork claims to have contacted us, but did not. They have the wrong address, but managed to track down and seize funds from our bank.

I don't have any idea where to start with this. The bank $100 is non-refundable, and they gave us no warning this was happening. The $100.25 to AZ is probably so small most people wouldn't bother to fight it.

Anyone else have this happen (Arizona claiming you owe taxes even after moving away)? How do I get the funds back from Arizona DOR? How about the bank?

 

[sandyclaus]

In 2007 we lived in Arizona for one year and filed appropriate state taxes. We then moved away.
In 2010 we got a letter saying we owed several hundred for 2008 Arizona State taxes. We provided information to the fact that we did not reside in Arizona for any part of 2008 and the claim was withdrawn.
Today I got a letter from my bank saying Arizona had taken 100.25 from our account, and the bank took a 100 "service fee"

The money is really gone, right out of savings (first I thought "scam")
The paperwork has my SSN.
The paperwork is from the bank and has no explanation of what the 100.25 is for, or why this happened. The only clue is it's from the Az dept of revenue.
The paperwork claims to have contacted us, but did not. They have the wrong address, but managed to track down and seize funds from our bank.

I don't have any idea where to start with this. The bank $100 is non-refundable, and they gave us no warning this was happening. The $100.25 to AZ is probably so small most people wouldn't bother to fight it.

Anyone else have this happen (Arizona claiming you owe taxes even after moving away)? How do I get the funds back from Arizona DOR? How about the bank?

I find it incredibly difficult to believe that you had no advance notice this was going to happen or what the money was taken for. If they managed to find your bank info, then they would have also had your current address. Your notification was probably one of those letters you received, and you threw it away, thinking that you could ignore it and it would just go away.

I suggest that you contact the AZ DOR on Monday and they will answer your questions about why - and how much more you can expect them to take from you.

 

[jage]

I find it incredibly difficult to believe that you had no advance notice this was going to happen or what the money was taken for.

Do you believe my credit score is 817? Does that matter either?

True, I can't convince you how meticulous I am. I'm aware it is the Internet after all. But I haven't lived in Arizona for nearly 6 years now. I've already moved from one Colorado address to another. And the bank letter is a bunch of legal mumbo (which I read and understood) that justifies the DOR taking the money, but nothing about why. It also has my old address- my old, last address in Colorado, the one from which I corresponded with them about the 2008 fiasco. If I have some legal obligation to keep the department of revenue of every state I've ever been to informed of my current address, please make me aware of that.

Yeah, so no, I don't ignore $3 bank fees, I wouldn't ignore a Department of Revenue warning regardless of how superfluous it might seem.

Obviously, I'm so mad about this I could spit tacks.

 

[davew128]

I find it incredibly difficult to believe that you had no advance notice this was going to happen or what the money was taken for. If they managed to find your bank info, then they would have also had your current address. Your notification was probably one of those letters you received, and you threw it away, thinking that you could ignore it and it would just go away.

And then there are tax professionals who DO believe this. Sandy, you're wrong here. I have a client of my own who had a balance due, the state levied their account for that amount and DIDN'T apply the money to the outstanding balance, and then six weeks later that state levied the bank account AGAIN for the same debt. Needless to say my client is now demanding that the state not only return the money (they did) but also reimburse them the $100 bank service fee for the bogus additonal levy.

 

[davew128]

jage, you're going to have to call AZ DOR Monday morning and straighten this out.

 

[jage]

Thanks davew128

Eleven phone calls to AZ Dor later, only 5 of which were me hanging up after being put on hold:
An adjustment by the IRS which I have not confirmed was purportedly made to my federal income taxes for the same tax year that I actually did reside (and filed) in AZ.

By the time they resend the paperwork to my corrected address, my 21 day grace period with the levy would have expired so I was required to pay the current balance of $100.65 today to have any possibility of the levy not going through, which hopefully will be the cornerstone of forcing my bank to rescind the exorbitant $100 fee.

Apparently they have every right to do all of this, according to AZ revenue code. Of that I have no doubt. Had I received the bill I obviously would have just paid it, I already know better than to argue; but their tax law says they have to try to contact me, not that they have to try hard.

In the immortal words of Homer Simpson: I LEARNED NOTHING!

 

[Just Blue]

Thanks davew128

Eleven phone calls to AZ Dor later, only 5 of which were me hanging up after being put on hold:
An adjustment by the IRS which I have not confirmed was purportedly made to my federal income taxes for the same tax year that I actually did reside (and filed) in AZ.

By the time they resend the paperwork to my corrected address, my 21 day grace period with the levy would have expired so I was required to pay the current balance of $100.65 today to have any possibility of the levy not going through, which hopefully will be the cornerstone of forcing my bank to rescind the exorbitant $100 fee.

Apparently they have every right to do all of this, according to AZ revenue code. Of that I have no doubt. Had I received the bill I obviously would have just paid it, I already know better than to argue; but their tax law says they have to try to contact me, not that they have to try hard.

In the immortal words of Homer Simpson: I Dohhh![/I]!

Sorry...Had to fix that for you!

 

[LdiJ]

Thanks davew128

Eleven phone calls to AZ Dor later, only 5 of which were me hanging up after being put on hold:
An adjustment by the IRS which I have not confirmed was purportedly made to my federal income taxes for the same tax year that I actually did reside (and filed) in AZ.

By the time they resend the paperwork to my corrected address, my 21 day grace period with the levy would have expired so I was required to pay the current balance of $100.65 today to have any possibility of the levy not going through, which hopefully will be the cornerstone of forcing my bank to rescind the exorbitant $100 fee.

Apparently they have every right to do all of this, according to AZ revenue code. Of that I have no doubt. Had I received the bill I obviously would have just paid it, I already know better than to argue; but their tax law says they have to try to contact me, not that they have to try hard.

In the immortal words of Homer Simpson: I LEARNED NOTHING!

Just so that you know, that is standard practise with the IRS and all states that have state income tax. Generally it takes the IRS about a year to run the matching program (the program that matches all W2s, 1099's, 1098's etc) that they have received directly from employers, companies and financial institutions, with actual tax returns submitted by the taxpayers. If they find a significant mismatch, they send out a CP-2000 letter to the taxpayer. If the taxpayer eventually is determined to be responsible for additional tax, then about a year after that the IRS notifies the state that there was a descrepancy, and then the state goes after their share.