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lynvon

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? M" MO. OWN WORDS"
Children have certain inherent rights based on their special status as children and their inability to take care of themselves. Among these inherent rights are the right to live with their birth family, to receive love, protection, nurturance, mutual respect and support until they reach majority; the right to be free from harm, neglect, abuse; to receive an education; to have physical care and medical attention; to have the chance to enjoy all facets of family life; to be disciplined and to receive religious and moral training; and to grow into self-sufficient, independent young adults. The preservation of family and community ties is essential to the safety, well-being and
permanency for a child. CD recognizes and supports the preservation of family and
community connections. Children_s Service Workers shall strive to preserve and
maintain family and community connections for all children and families
DO MY KIDS DESERVE LESS!
To Whom:
I am requesting Assistance: I need a stronger voice, a Giant among Giants. My family and I have been torn apart. we are on military orders for Germany. My, wife whom serves in the Army and served in the Iraq war March 03/07 until May 04/07,our kids have not gotten over that, and now we are separated again, SSG Mitchom may return at any time,to fight for the United State of America for you and all of us. I help take care of our children which before Aug.05/o7, have never been separated from me no longer then a week, (once) in 17 years,until now its been very
devastating on us all,my wife is unable to leave her job to do so. I am requesting my passport be, released, so I can join my family in Germany.
They (wife and children) left on August,05/07 the reason the passport is suspended is back child support. Which payment is under the 2500,limit I do owe the state of Missouri 19,000 I have been making payments since 1995 every month and this will continue while in Germany, it's taken from my SSI check. what, I owe the state, of Missouri. I understand that I owe and I am not trying to get out of paying. Separating me and my family has not only been a hardship on me.having been labeled a DEAD BEAT DAD then the states make me one by keeping me away from my wife and children."I AM ALIVE"!!I have always been, we do not deserve this!
my wife and children. Our kids are failing in school,my son is crying,he's not wanting say grace when they sit at the table now, something we did every day,my daughter is talking back being disrespectful both daughter and son are showing signs of depression my wife also this is a lot on her.We use to be a family of unity,
the Tour in Germany is for (36 months) and I would return to the U.S.A.with my family once the tour of duty is over my wife just made her E-6 09/24/07 and has served 11yrs.and has chosen to make career 24yrs are more.
 
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CJane

Senior Member
You need to remove the personal information AND you need to trim your post down to only the pertinent facts. It's nearly impossible to decipher what you even WANT.

I get that you're 19K in arrears. And that MO has jurisdiction.

But I don't know what your relationship is to the children in Germany, or whether the children in MO are still minors, or whether you're employed, or why the whole family moved to Germany w/out you.
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
Here is my suggestion.

You find a way to get a loan to pay off a significant amount or all of your arrearages...and you make a deal with the CSE to release your passport for a lump sum payment.
 

profmum

Senior Member
you are 19K in arrears for kids who live in MO? and you have family that is now stationed in Germany? if that is correct, then stop the drama about being torn about from your family and the diatribe about your kids deserving the best... what about the kids in MO that you have not paid CS for????
You are in arrears for 19K in CS.. the colloquial definition of that is yes "dead beat dad", whether you are E6,E7 or anything in between.
 

TinkerBelleLuvr

Senior Member
Among these inherent rights are the right to live with their birth family, to receive love, protection, nurturance, mutual respect and support until they reach majority
The children for whom this support order exist ALSO deserve to be supported, not just the ones you had later with your wife.

Just like parents who do something stupid and get sent to jail, children may suffer because the parent did the stupidity. You didn't pay the support; the children are suffering from YOUR inaction. Sorry.
 

q4life

Member
Why ask if your kids deserve less? Obviously the first one's did since you are 19K into arrears. I think that it is just that you are being held here and not allowed to leave the country. You are being sponsored by your wife. Once in Germany who is to say you will work? My H was stationed there 3 years as well and his ex W didnt work nor did she send a dime to the 5 year old she left behid to start a new life with the child she was carrying.

There are rules and regulations for a reason and serious consequence when you decide that your kids do indeed deserve less. They deserve to have a roof over there head and food in their stomachs and clothes on their back.

You really want to go with your new family then do the right thing. Take out the biggest loan you can and give your kids what they could use towards college now.
 

happybug

Member
I do have to say ( as a non-legal ) opinion. I think it is quite ironic that OP is so mourning the loss of his " family " Yet he can't seem to find it in his heart to provide basic support to his older children. Nor, does he find it necessary to live in the same country as them. OP, when did your older children stop being your family. You complain how hard this is on the younger kids. ( Which I'm sure it is. ) However, I will assume your older children have been suffering a lot longer. Beyond not caring to support them financially, it doesn't seem you are too supportive emotionally either. $19,000 is not a couple of months late. You have abandoned your " old " kids to provide for the new ones. You can't trade children in like you do a car.
 

redleg17

Member
Actually I am suorised he got security clearance to join his wife in Germany, obviously someone let the ball slip here.
His wife is the military member. Dependants are not given a security clearance, but the State Department CAN refuse to issue a passport, which would preclude him from traveling to Germany.

The SOFA (Status of Forces Agreement) with Germany would also prevent him from being recognized as a Command Sponsored (legally there as a family member of a U.S. Forces member) if he cannot LEGALLY enter Germany.
 

redleg17

Member
I guess as my coffee took effect the magnitude of the OP's request for help sunk in.

You owe $19,000 in court-ordered child-support and you are SUPRISED that the State Department won't give you permission to leave the country?

Did your servicemember spouse bother to inform you that she is not REQUIRED to take dependants on an overseas tour and that an unaccompanied tour is only 24 months? If the issue is a 3-year seperation/problems with the children adjusting/possibility of deployment, why did she take the kids with her? If she IS deployed, and that is fairly likely these days, they will have to relocate AGAIN.
 
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