bought "frame off" restored 1972 Corvette, not restored as advertised

[AzWiz]

What is the name of your state (only U .S. law)? Arizona

Last year I purchased a classic 1972 Corvette Stingray. The seller almost didn't give me a sales receipt so I type one up myself. Being the good guy that I am I included the "as is" statement. Come to find out his description of a restored vehicle in his ad is somewhat in doubt. I knew there were a few things that were not fixed, but were minor. And no, they were not mentioned in the BOS. So far I've put in about $3500 in missing parts, parts not as advertised, or incorrectly installed. Between getting it licensed, insured, road worthy, as well as finding this out piece by piece, it has been close to a year. Do I have a case? Is there a time limit? Small claims court or Atty? This is in As if that makes a difference. Ohh yeah, paid $30K.

 

[Ohiogal]

What is the name of your state (only U .S. law)? Arizona

Last year I purchased a classic 1972 Corvette Stingray. The seller almost didn't give me a sales receipt so I type one up myself. Being the good guy that I am I included the "as is" statement. Come to find out his description of a restored vehicle in his ad is somewhat in doubt. I knew there were a few things that were not fixed, but were minor. And no, they were not mentioned in the BOS. So far I've put in about $3500 in missing parts, parts not as advertised, or incorrectly installed. Between getting it licensed, insured, road worthy, as well as finding this out piece by piece, it has been close to a year. Do I have a case? Is there a time limit? Small claims court or Atty? This is in As if that makes a difference. Ohh yeah, paid $30K.

Nope. You don't have a case. You bought it as is. You should have gotten an inspection by a reputable mechanic PRIOR to purchasing it.

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

You got hosed!!! Next time, stick to buying something you are familiar with or pay an expert to asses it.

 

[LdiJ]

You got hosed!!! Next time, stick to buying something you are familiar with or pay an expert to asses it.

Some typos are really funny...LOL

 

[BL]

If you had not wrote " as-is " and depending on the advertizement and your proof otherwise you " might " have recovered some cost.

Now you do not have a chance in hadies.

 

[AzWiz]

kind of hard to take advice from people that don't really have a grasp of the English language. I have a copy of his original advertisement where he claims that it is a fully restored Corvette. On the surface it looks that way. I still think its fraud and there are exceptions to buying "as is" in Arizona law however I can't fully interpret it.

 

[Ohiogal]

kind of hard to take advice from people that don't really have a grasp of the English language. I have a copy of his original advertisement where he claims that it is a fully restored Corvette. On the surface it looks that way. I still think its fraud and there are exceptions to buying "as is" in Arizona law however I can't fully interpret it.

You do NOT have a case. YOU bought it as-is. Caveat emptor -- buyer beware. You should have brought a professional with you to look the car over and advise you. You chose not to do so.

 

[AzWiz]

in addition to the original advertisement I have professional Corvette mechanics that will testify as to the problems. One of the exceptions is if he knew beforehand that there were defects or underlying problems. I documented most of these with dated photographs taken right after delivery. I spoke with him numerous times and he kept saying he'd take care of it.

 

[BL]

kind of hard to take advice from people that don't really have a grasp of the English language. I have a copy of his original advertisement where he claims that it is a fully restored Corvette. On the surface it looks that way. I still think its fraud and there are exceptions to buying "as is" in Arizona law however I can't fully interpret it.

Alrighty.

When you can cite AZ. Law on this ,even if "AS-IS" was written on the sales receipt ,please post it.

We would be more than willing to look at the Law.

Until then....

 

[xylene]

You bought a money pit.

You would have no recourse, even if you didn't SIGN TO the as-is, because private party sales of a used vehicle are assumed under law to be AS-IS absent specific language in the contract.

 

[aldaron]

Some typos are really funny...LOL

Spell ****'s are 1 step above a liberal on the scumbag scale.

 

[quincy]

Spell ****'s are 1 step above a liberal on the scumbag scale.

You spelled **** wrong.



(trying to elevate myself a bit on the scale)

 

[TigerD]

Spell ****'s are 1 step above a liberal on the scumbag scale.

That can only be interpreted to mean you are a conservative. Pity you failed to take Uncle Ronnie's words of wisdom to heart: Trust but verify.

DC

 

[justalayman]

kind of hard to take advice from people that don't really have a grasp of the English language. I have a copy of his original advertisement where he claims that it is a fully restored Corvette. On the surface it looks that way. I still think its fraud and there are exceptions to buying "as is" in Arizona law however I can't fully interpret it.

Ok, you don't like the answers you are getting so let me try this a different way.




define: fully restored


the problem; you cannot define it such that you can expect any particular work to have been done. It is a loosely used term that whomever is using it applies their own definition. The onus is upon you to verify that the restoration undertaken meets with your requirements.


Now, if there was a material difference in what was claimed and what he sold to you, you might have a claim for something there, depending on exactly what it is, but as to it meeting some definition of fully restored that you want to put on it; not happening.

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

The term fully restored, when not done by a redneck, usually includes key terms to advise you whether it was dissected and blasted or dissected and dipped. Rotisserie is usually the best. Then we get to whether panels were changed NOS, leaded or glassed. Whether the interior was factory or custom remade. Whether it is numbers matching and rebuilt or needs rebuilt or has been changed. Whether the suspension was upgraded and brakes are now all disc. Whether the glass body had mount points cracked and repaired or solid. Whether the finish was dried out and new panels added or old ones were re-glassed. Was it repainted to code including all the original cracks and crevices. Did or does the harness require patchwork. Are the guages ans electronics fully Functional?