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navdoc

Member
What is the name of your state? ****land NCP is in Indiana
I just got off the phone with the child support office and was told by them that since I was not getting assistance then my son was "Just not a priorrity" :mad:
I filed several months ago for CS (my son is 13 now) and have heard nothing from the CS office. Everytime I call I get voice mail or just blown off. I have done just about everything but deliver the NCP to their doorstep. We were not married when our son was born so I understand that paternity has to be established. but to be treated like that just burns me!
Sorry more of a rant than a question. Sorry for the spelling not had my coffee yet. :eek:
 


navdoc

Member
nextwife said:
And why did you wait until age 13 to establsih paternity?
The NCP never denied paternity. The state is the one wanting the DNA test.
I have been raising him by myself as "Daddy" could not be bothered and it is getting expensive. I will not lower our standerd of living because of the NCP not wanting to honor an informal agreement and I am attempting to take him to court.
In a nut shell I have to resort to the courts to get him to pay his fare share for a child that he wanted as well.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
You have waited 13 years to establish paternity and now you are upset with the CS department becuase there is paternity is not established? They can't do anyting until a judge orders a paternity test. :rolleyes:
 

navdoc

Member
rmet4nzkx said:
You have waited 13 years to establish paternity and now you are upset with the CS department becuase there is paternity is not established? They can't do anyting until a judge orders a paternity test. :rolleyes:
He reniged on a child support agreement made outside of court when the child was born. So why am I the bad guy here? He gets off without paying a dime. He has also never denied paternity. I am just mad because of the rude b%$ch at the CS office.
Roll your eyes all you want. Just sick of being treated like trash because I am not on welfare :rolleyes:
 

CJane

Senior Member
navdoc said:
He reniged on a child support agreement made outside of court when the child was born. So why am I the bad guy here? He gets off without paying a dime. He has also never denied paternity. I am just mad because of the rude b%$ch at the CS office.
Roll your eyes all you want. Just sick of being treated like trash because I am not on welfare :rolleyes:

A child support agreement made outside of court is worth less than the paper and ink used to create it. Unless and until paternity is established and the COURT issues child support orders, dad owes nothing at all to you. And yeah, that's totally your fault.
 

poeypooh

Member
I dont think it is that she is afraid to have the paternity test done.

Navdoc-it doesnt matter if the bio dad questions paternity or not, this is something that HAS to be done before child support can be established. There are a lot of woman saying that a man is dad, the man believes it, doesnt question it and then later finds out that he has bonded and supported that is not his biological child. Not that anyone thinks that this is the case, but it is just a way for the court to try and prevent this from happening.

Unfortunately, interstate child support cases always take a lot of time. Mine took over 1 1/2 years. And the child support office was right, if you had been on welfare they would have acted faster. Doesnt seem right, but that is just how it is.

Good luck to you.
 

Gracie3787

Senior Member
navdoc said:
What is the name of your state? ****land NCP is in Indiana
I just got off the phone with the child support office and was told by them that since I was not getting assistance then my son was "Just not a priorrity" :mad:
I filed several months ago for CS (my son is 13 now) and have heard nothing from the CS office. Everytime I call I get voice mail or just blown off. I have done just about everything but deliver the NCP to their doorstep. We were not married when our son was born so I understand that paternity has to be established. but to be treated like that just burns me!
Sorry more of a rant than a question. Sorry for the spelling not had my coffee yet. :eek:
The CS office was wrong when they said that it wasn't a priority because you aren't on welfare. They are "supposed to" treat all cases the same. However, that does not mean that they aren't working on it, they are, it just takes alot of time.
You have to look at the whole picture:

CSE agencies are VERY overloaded with cases and almost always understaffed, the higher ups in the state are always on their backs about getting the state reimbursed for welfare expenses, so unfortunately they usually do go after those cases faster. (yes, it's wrong, but this is what they do).

Then you have the problem that even the caseworkers look at your situation and see that you have known for many many years who the father is, yet you didn't bother to get a court order for CS. They really get irritated about your sudden rush now to get a court order.

The bottom line is that it ALWAYS takes awhile to get everything done when first establishing paternity and CS, so you need to understand and be patient, because although the wheels turn slowly, they Do turn and everything will get done.
Gracie :)
 
Gracie3787 said:
The CS office was wrong when they said that it wasn't a priority because you aren't on welfare. They are "supposed to" treat all cases the same.
I have been told this exact same thing by our Child Support Office. It's true that the people on welfare come first because the state wants their money back. Gracie is right, they will work on it but it's a very slow process.
 

navdoc

Member
rmet4nzkx said:
Why are you afraid to have a paternity test done?
Never said I was. He (well his parents) were paying and that stopped. State says I need a DNA test. NCP never denied paternity so it is just a formality IMO.
 

Grace_Adler

Senior Member
From what I understand, and I have seen, normally what CSE does in regards to paternity is summon the alleged father to court. He has his chance there to deny paternity or not. If he denies paternity, then they will order a paternity test. They will also accept an Affadavit of Parentage. If he doesn't show up, then he is presumed the father and you'll win by default.

III. ESTABLISHING FATHERHOOD: PATERNITY
A father can acknowledge paternity by signing a written admission or voluntary acknowledgement of paternity. All States have programs under which birthing hospitals give unmarried parents of a newborn the opportunity to acknowledge the father's paternity of the child. States must also help parents acknowledge paternity up until the child's eighteenth birthday through vital records offices or other entities designated by the State. Parents are not required to apply for child support enforcement services when acknowledging paternity.

Under the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act of 1996 (PRWORA) an acknowledgment of paternity becomes a finding of paternity unless the man who signed the acknowledgment denies that he is the father within 60 days. If it becomes necessary to seek child support, a finding of paternity creates the basis for a child support order. A support order against the father cannot be established for a child who is born to unmarried parents until paternity has been established.

It is important to establish paternity as early as possible. While CSE offices must try to establish paternity for any child up to the child's 18th birthday, it is best to do it as soon after the child's birth as possible. If the man will not acknowledge that he is the father, the CSE agency can order genetic testing. These tests are simple to take and highly accurate.

What if he denies he is the father, or says he's not sure?

Paternity can be determined by administrative procedures which take into account highly accurate tests conducted on blood or tissue samples of the man, mother and child. Genetic test results indicate a probability of paternity and can establish a legal presumption of paternity. These tests have an accuracy range of between 90 and 99 percent. They can exclude a man who is not the biological father and can also show the likelihood of paternity if he is not excluded. Each party in a contested paternity case must submit to genetic tests at the request of either party or the CSE agency.

The father of my child said I would never get a paternity judgment on him because he'd just leave the State. What happens in this case?

If the accused father fails to respond to a formal complaint properly served upon him, a default judgment can be entered in court. The default judgment establishes paternity. At the same time, a court order for support may be issued. If the parent has disappeared, State and Federal Parent Locator Services can be called on to help find him. States must give full faith and credit to paternity determinations made by other states in accordance with their laws and regulations.



http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/programs/cse/fct/cshdbk.htm
 
Has it been past 120 days? I'm in MD too and they said that I won't hear anything for atleast 120 days. I filed 2 weeks after my son was born. Also have you registered on the website to check on your case yourself? I'm doing an interstate also, so it could be the other state that you're waiting on. You can always call them and get a status check.

www.dhr.state.md.us/csea/index.htm
 

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